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Nine Supplements to Avoid

While all supplements should be used carefully, some should not be used at all. Here are nine supplements you shouldn't take.

Arnica
Arnica Montana
Claim: Relieves aches; an anti-inflammatory and immune enhancer
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: Is toxic if it gets inside the body. Taken orally, it’s poisonous unless extremely diluted in homeopathic pill form; applied topically, on unbroken skin, it is generally considered safe. Can cause miscarriages, allergic reactions, paralysis, heart palpitations, death

Aconite
Aconitum napellus
Claim: Eases joint inflammation, gout, RA
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: Is a strong, fast-acting poison that affects the heart and central nervous system

Adrenal, spleen, thymus extracts
Claim: Helps fatigue, and relives stress and inflammation
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: Derived from raw animal organs. FDA warns organs could possibly be contaminated.

Autumn crocus
Colchicum autumnale
Claim: Lessens gout attacks and eases general arthritis
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: Is a potential poison. Taken only as a prescription drug (colchicine) under a doctor’s supervision.

5-HTP
5-hydroxytrytophan
Claim: Helps fibromyalgia, sleep disorders and depression
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: Associated with esosinophilia myalgia, a serious illness that causes severe rashes, acute pain and other symptoms.

GBL 
Gamma-butyrolactone
Claim: Helps fibromyalgia, sleep problems, depression, claims to “improve sexual and athletic performance and health”
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: Has been linked to death, coma and seizures.

L-tryptophan
Claim:  Eases sleep disorders and depression
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: It has been associated with esosinophilia myalgia syndrome (EMS), a serious illness that causes severe rashes, acute pain and other symptoms.

Chaparral
Claim: Reduces inflammation
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: May cause hepatitis and kidney and liver damage.

Kombucha tea
Claim: Helps “rheumatism” and eases pain
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: Has a high risk of contamination with anthrax and other bacteria.

 

Anne
03 Feb 2012, 14:33
In response to Cindy on 29 Dec 2011, 02:16
I am in a Medical Marajuana State and have had the chance to try tinctures and find that they work very well for me - I now see a brighter future - lifted of some depression and free from pain, suffered from Fibromyalgia, OA, Bursitis, degenerative disk diease and more. It took time to research on my part but it really helps once you understand how and why it works.
joan
31 Jan 2012, 14:32
A Short History of Medicine:
"Doctor, I have an ear ache."

2000 B.C. - "Here, eat this root."

1000 A.D. - "That root is heathen, say this prayer."

1850 A.D. - "That prayer is superstition, drink this potion."

1940 A.D. - "That potion is snake oil, swallow this pill."

1985 A.D. - "That pill is ineffective, take this antibiotic."

2000 A.D. - "That antibiotic is artificial. Here, eat this root!"
Casey Gamero
21 Jan 2012, 20:48
One word "zija".. I have severe Rhumatoid Arthritis. Went from a college athlete to not being able to walk. I have had over a dozen surgeries including joint replacement and I am only 36 years old. With all natural Zija I have been in remission for 16 months and require 0 meds! It has changed my life and those of many others. Don't just take my word for it. Go to www.caseygamero.myzijastory.com Do the research yourself. I truly feel it has saved my life. Every medication they gave me had serious side effects or I became allergic to it. Yes, I am a distributor. 1) because I will never ever quit taking it. 2) because I feel morally obligated to share it with others who have similar problems. 3) by sharing it with others my family is able to take it for free. I have nothing to hide but wanted to share the info. I wish I would have known about it sooner.
jan provost
17 Jan 2012, 09:58
I have Rhumatoid arthritis. it has destroyed the cartelidge in both shoulders. therefore i am unable to lift my arms beyond my waist. i can no longer drive or do most normal tasks. the Dr.'s won't operate because of my heart condition.
Does anyone have any tips on how i can perform daily tasks easier? I would really appreciate any and all suggestions. thanks!
Cindy
29 Dec 2011, 02:16
If you live in a medical marijuana state you should look into getting the CBD tinctures. They do not have the psycho-reactive results so you get no "high" feelings & it is supposed to do wonders for the pain. I recently ran across the information & it sounds like it helps quite a bit. Also try googling juicing raw cannabis there is a you tube video on it too. Feel free to email me if you want the direct links. ABigPurpleDiamond@yahoo.com
Deborah
16 Nov 2011, 11:52
Here is a reply to "FMR, DC". His/her message was posted on 15 Nov 2011, 14:38. Here is the reply: Not everyone has the same results from using naturopathic medicines.

Here is info for those who physically suffer because of emotional suppression. There is Mickle Therapy.

Best of Health
FMR, DC
15 Nov 2011, 14:38
Not only did you Violate you own CODE of ETHICS , you also contradicted your ARTHRITIS FOUNDATION CORE VALUES!

So, who held the gun to your head or did you hire some flunky off the street who needed a few bucks and knew NOTHING about Alternative medicine which by the way WORKS!! AND has been around a hell of a lot longer that the damn drugs than are killing us on a daily basis!!

You have insulted not only your Sponsors, Yourselves, OUR INTELLIGENCE, AND are making us question your validity and respectability.
Even my Medical doctors who treat me for Fibromyalgia and CFS have more knowledge and are accepting of Homeopathy, Supplements, etc. BECAUSE THE DRUGS EITHER DO NOT WORK, OR THEY DEPLETE THE BODY OF MUCH NEEDED NUTRIENTS AND THEY MUST BE REPLACED!!

Shall we talk about DANGEROUS MEDS??? and alternatives like L-Tryptophan and 5-HTP? Much safer and they WORK. I took Raw Adrenals and I am still alive and GRATEFUL that they exist!! They actually are one of the reasons I am STILL ALIVE.

Get your heads out of your black boxes and join the 21st Century and Reality. STOP spreading lies. Maybe you should be telling the truth about the DRUGS and the PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES. You like kissing their big fat butts. . . .gee I wonder why??


Dawn Babcock
28 Oct 2011, 14:36
This is a funny article and shows your complete lack of awareness of alternative remedies. Arnica and Aconite, when recommended for arthritis is supposed to be in the homeopathic dilution, which is 100% safe and has none of the actual chemical left in the new remedy. Try to refrain from commenting on things you know nothing about and then perhaps try learning a little about homeopathy so that you don't look so educated next time you write about it.

These both actually work quite well and pose ZERO threat.

I have to wonder if you really know absolutely NOTHING about homeopathy or you know so much about it that it's scary because you know it works so well and is safer than any of the drugs that the companies that support your foundation sell.

In case you forgot who sponsors you and the reason you all still have jobs you clearly want to keep they can be found here:

http://www.arthritis.org/proud-sponsors.php

Kelly
18 Oct 2011, 13:56
1st time on site-
I'm 32 with fibro, allergies (including chemical), and just had foot surgery. Plus migraines, etc....

Anyway, I didn't notice anyone mentioning Flector patches (or Lidoderm)- they are great. And I like not have to ingest more NSAIDS. Patches are more direct.
Also, I use a gel called Volaren. Same type of thing, but I use it anywhere needed-hands, feet, neck.
Like any other med, you do have to watch how much you use at a time.

One more thing that has helped me tremendously with my chemical sensitivities is Ubiquinol. I had never heard of it till another message board either. :) It is simply reduced CoQ10, which helps with this type of sensitivity for some reason. I buy it at Whole Foods and take 100mg every day. This one's not an RX.
Hope this helps someone!
LivingBetter
18 Oct 2011, 12:52
While this site has a lot of information, some enlightening, some not. Regardless of how you term it or look at it, most of the maladies & particular to arthritis & other associated problems, what it all boils down to is "auto-immune, auto-immune, auto-immune" system that is OUT of CONTROL & attacking your own body.

Titles of the syndromes, disease names, conditions, or whatever you wish to term the issue, it wears or bears the name BY what part of the body your immune system is attacking. In essense, most of these conditions are all treated similarly & pretty much with the same drugs being tried & applied. I've been the gamut of just about all of them.

Here's what most people don't know, including most doctors, "allergic reactions" internally, particularly to forms of sulfur, CAN, WILL, and DO occur with illness & pain beyond comprehension. I know cause I've walked in those shoes & was told several yrs ago that within 2 yrs of that time, I would be confined to a wheelchair. Well, some nearly 12 yrs later, I'm very active, work full time, & live relatively drug & pain free. I am declared STILL in remission now for almost 12 yrs.

HOW did I do it?

Much research & coming to an understanding that SULFURS were at the root of my immune problems. Have you ever stopped to think, bothered to research how much "sulfur" you are putting into your body every day via the foods & drinks you consume, the cleaning products you use, your environment? Not to mention that SULFUR naturally occurs IN the body & where is it most commonly found? JOINTS.

Now, If you already know that you have allergies, particularly to sulfur, which I did but hadn't made the connection, I got to the point that every time additional sulfur in any form entered by body, there WAS a reaction "internally" of some sort. My immune system was ramping up another attack on my body for the sulfur allergen. Make sense? Think about it.

Start reading "contents" lables & you will be utterly ASTOUNDED at how much sulfur you are likely consuming -- going to your joints, causing internal reactions with swelling, inflamation, and pain from your immune system seeing the sulfurs as "antagonist or foreign" to your body.

There are natural sulfurs, synthetic sulfurs, sulfas, sulfites, sulfates. It doesn't matter which form of it, If I intake or expose it to my body, I react.

I began DELETING & avoiding these sulfurs -- ALL of them as much as I could possibly do. I began to get better & improve. I added certain vitamins & mineral supplements with my diet to get a good "balance" between healthy red cells & white cells. I weaned off ALL poisonous & toxic drugs & today, still rely on this life-style change, Living a Full & very active life at age 60+.

I'm a firm believer in sublinguials. Trivita is a wonderful product, Nutronix their competitor is also, but there are also other good brands sublinguials as well.

RX's I must take for life are potassium liquid supplement (more easily absorbed & effective), Aldactone to prevent filtering system of kidneys from deleting too much potassium from my body. Those are the ONLY 2 RX I must take daily. I rely on benedryl PRN for allergic issues & help to keep immune system from reacting to the sulfurs that simply cannot be avoided occuring naturally in foods. Other supplements are simply pure vitamins & ONLY certain ones, which does NOT include zinc-immune enhancer/builder, or others like enchancea. ONLY take B-12 w/folic, B-6, A, E, (no C), magnesium, & calcium in easily absorbed forms.

I'm on NO pain meds now. Even recently broke my left wrist. Had arthritis forming in it. Taking B-6 on an empty stomach has had anti-inflamatory effects on the wrist with arthritis disappearing. Wrist is almost healed, bone cyst disappearing, & I'm having no pain now. Expect to be released from Ortho at next visit. It was a bad break with multiple fractures & one large bone.

I will gladly do my best to answer any questions regarding my experience if it might mean helping someone else regain their health to be Living Better.

Remember, a Lifestyle Change will likely be necessary, but can tell you now, it has been well worth it. Hubby even lives now, MEDS free.
Goldpan11
18 Oct 2011, 09:37
Sue I tried instaflex for 1 month it's a scam! doesn't work don't waste your money on the product I paid for a 2week sample then told them it never arrived and got another 2 weeks free! After 1 month I did not notice one difference, my doctor gives my diclofenac, it helps my knees to move better, also chondroitin and glucosemine,plus MSN really works after I've been taking it for 6 years, That seems to work
sue c
05 Oct 2011, 15:48
I also wondered if anyone has used Instaflex?
It is suppose to be so great for Arthritis..It is very expensive and you can order it or buy it a GNC..But because it cost almost $70. a bottle dont want to spend that kind of money if its no good.
sue c
05 Oct 2011, 15:45
I have osteoarthritis bad in one hip and both knees and my back..I had a right hip replacement 2 years ago and its doing great..I have heard that ezorb calcium really would help with pain and also help heal the problems or a least make living with them easier..Has anyone ever tried this particular calcium???you take quite a few at first then you can lower the amount after a few weeks..please if anyone has tried this please respong..
Sue
02 Oct 2011, 22:58
Marilee 2, I also had a terrible experience with Cymbalta. I developed such severe tremors in my hands that I couldn't use them for the simplest task, writing etc. My Dr. took me off of it and they eventually disappeared. I know it may help a lot of people but for me it was a horrible experience.
Chocoholiclady
01 Oct 2011, 05:03
Until 2009 I was very active, physically fit, etc. I was a bachelor degreed RN with many years of experience. Then I became ill with what appeared to be viral gastritis or gastroenteritis. When it failed to get better and I began running a high fever I called the doctor. Two rounds of antibiotics later the only thing to improve was the fever. I just got sicker. I was hospitalized several times. I began having unrelenting pain all over. After several months the original illness finally began to subside, but the pain remained. I eventually was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, IBS/IBD, diabetes, and the list goes on. Also, I've always had pernicious anemia requiring B-12 injections as no other delivery method works. And a history of osteoarthritis. I am no longer able to work and on disability. My husband has been disabled for many years. Since our son was only 15 months old his health began to decline in numerous ways. So financially we found ourselves learning to live on limited income which we'd really not had to do for so many years that it was pretty much like a slap in the face and rubbing salt into the wound. But we have reached a stage now where we are doing 'ok' and pretty well figured things out I think.

Lyrica caused urinary retention and in less than 6 months I went from 128 lbs to 298.7 lbs. Since being switched to Cymbalta it has been slowly dropping by 2 to 4 lbs per month. Slower than it was gained anyway. I still have bouts with retention but only rarely rather than constantly. However, I've become incontinent and I'm currently working with a urologist to find out why and treatments. It's possible that it could be a result of the retention and constant cathing.

I tried accupuncture (it had worked great in the past for headaches related to TMJ) but it didn't help and was actually difficult to tolerate this time. My family has to be so careful about touching me now. And we are very affectionate and into "bear hugs" and family "group hugs" so this is difficult for all of us. Also, it is more often than not excruciating just to have a hand placed lightly on my shoulder...and if I cannot tolerate a hand placed lightly on my shoulder there is no way I could do massage or chiropractic treatments as I have in the past for various things.

I am on many prescription medications as well as "alternative medicine" as most doctors term it these days. It has been difficult because I have two pages worth of allergies to various medications, foods, environmentals, certain flowers and trees, all forms of fungi (including mushrooms), and insect bites/stings. And several things to which I am not allergic but might as well be due to the severity of side effects (such as the time I was given a Kenalog shot and spent 3 months hallucinating).

The absolute best I can hope for is that my pain level will only be a 6 on a scale of zero to 10 in which pain medication is recommended at a 4. But there is almost always at least some part of my body that is 8. And sometimes it puts me into tears by going to 9 or 10 and I wish somebody would just shoot me. And every part of me hurts. Plus, I have so many things wrong that one med to treat this interacts with any meds used to treat that. And chondroitin causes every joint to become swollen and hurt more rather than less and that was before I got to be this way.

To summarize, I'm a mess and that's why I'm
here. Always checking to see if there is something else new to check into.

They aren't cheap!!!--- BUT if you really want to know EVERY little detail of every prescription medication AND herbals available in the U.S. you could purchase OR check with a local college library where they have nursing, medical doctor, and/or pharmacist degree programs:

The Physician's Desk Reference (PDR)

and

The Physician's Desk Reference for Herbal Medicine

There are new updated versions published every year so look for the most current year.

Cheaper, easily understood, herbal and prescription drug interactions listed but not really anything specifically on the herbs themselves:

Davis's Drug Guide for Nurses

Also published annually and also comes with a CD-ROM as well as available as an application for blackberries, etc.

Anyway, you can't get more reliable or detailed as the PDR and PDR for Herbal Medicine but they are going to close to if not more than a hundred dollars each. Davis's Drug Guide for Nurses is only for prescription drugs but does list any herbals that interact with those prescriptions and is usually under thirty dollars.

These are the bibles of the medical and health professions. You could also ask your doctor but most only have the PDR. The D.O. is more likely to have both. They are usually required to have the PDR available on every nursing of most hospitals but good luck finding the PDR of Herbal Medicine on any nursing unit. Both should be available to every pharmacist, but not sure if they will be. So many these days just look up the same information on the computer as the printouts they give you with your prescriptions.

Good luck & God Bless
hecep
01 Oct 2011, 00:02
Sylvia Elbaz... you are a charlatan, and a dangerous one at that. You stated that "It is not fair of the Arthritis Foundation to set up the information about Arnica in such a way that you would be turned off right away." Astounding. It sounds very much as if you place your need to promote Arvica above the need to have the public informed about the lethal effects of ingesting large amounts. AF's assessment did eventually state halfway through a very short paragraph that small amounts, applied topically, was safe. Would you rather that AF had played a happy, optomistic tune up front, and thereby cause some careless, easily swayed reader to immediately go off and take dangerous amounts? Obviously, you're in the industry, and place profit above peoples' health and lives. How dare you!
Sylvia Elbaz
21 Sep 2011, 21:39
Dear Teri,

The quantum physicist you are asking for was Albert Einstein and his formula was E=mc2.
In high school Chemistry we learned about Avogadro's number which says that beyond a certain dilution a molecule cannot exist. But Einstein said matter cannot disappear - it will be transformed into energy. So homeopathy is energy medicine.

It is not fair of the Arthritis Foundation to set up the information about Arnica in such a way that you would be turned off right away. If you kept reading to the phrase: "...unless extremely diluted in homeopathic pill form..." you might reconsider. The Arthritis foundation seems determined to steer you toward medications.
And speaking of energy, there are techniques such as Total Body Modification (TBM), Autonomic Response Testing (ART), Neuro Emotional Technique (NET), and more, that can correct incorrect energy patterns in the body such as auto-immune conditions without using any meds or supplements.

Also, a note to Laura Black and Jo:

Actonel does not make bones strong, it makes it denser because it prevents old bone cells from sloughing off but it doesn't build new bone cells, so the bone becomes brittle. (Which explains necrosis of the jaw)
Marcia
21 Sep 2011, 10:14
Starlight International, Inc. is an excellent source of herbal supplements which are testing in clinical trials. The company holds high standards to their ingredients and use the same testing standards as if they were required to be FDA approved. I take a product called 'Lifeguard Joint' made by Starlight and it has helped me immensely with no adverse side affects. I have checked the ingredients and none of the ones listed above are in 'Lifeguard Joint'. If you are interested in any of the Starlight International, Inc. products please feel free to contact me as I am an independent distributor at marali@aol.com, Thanks, Marcia
Vickie
21 Sep 2011, 05:21
I have skimmed thru, yet read many of the testimonials, advice on this web page. It is always good to share info, but I don't recall anyone giving any substance or testimonials to the greatest Healer that ever was, and still is, the Lord Jesus. Maybe it is because so many do not know Him, but many know "of" Him, which is not the same. He is the same, yesterday, today and forever and He is still in the healing business. There are many good preachers I can recommend that one can view on the internet. One is Andrew Wommack. On his site you can view for free teachings from the past. Also there are Healing testimonies from real people who really got healed thru the power of God and reading the truth of God's Word. Calling diseases "my arthritis" and saying things like the doctor said I'd be in a wheelchair by such and such an age are lies from the devil. He is real. He will put anything on us we are willing to believe and give power to. As Andrew Wommack says, he'll steal your lunch and pop the bag. Power against him is believing God, speaking the Word out loud to the problem, to the disease, feeding your spirit with the truth of God's word until it is in your heart. Once it is in your heart, your healing is on its way if you keep speaking the truth, "by His stripes I was and am healed" 1Peter 2:24. It is not mind over matter or endless repeating to try to convince your mind. God's Word is spirit. It has genuine spiritual power to heal! There is no other book whose words have this kind of supernatural power when spoken/and believed. The Bible is God-breathed words. I hope this helps many.
marilee 2
13 Sep 2011, 18:52
WARNING: Lyrica, Neurontin, Sulindac, Cymbalta almost ruined my bladder. Could not urinate for 3-4 days and got a bladder infection. and the doctor looked at me like I am a nut job when I say "I will not take this drug." Your body knows and you have to listen to it.
I have been fighting a "heat-related rash" that comes up if I am in a hot kitchent, hot bath, , sitting by a lamp, etc. The rash is the most horrible itch I have had in my life and I am 68 yrs old It stays in areas that have been exposed to sun all my life..neck, arms, chest and back but is has recently started appearing on my torso and legs when I cover up at night. The heat from this rash is unreal. Many drs and biopsy and no one has a clue. Maybe someone out there does....email me....goldengirl443@cox.net.
roselea laufenberg
09 Sep 2011, 09:59
for many, nopolea juice will work. it is an antiinflammatory natural drink. you can find it at tri-vita.com. they also sell the best sublingual B-12 i have ever used. nopolea is somewhat expensive, but it is a good cure for ay kind of inflammation.
Cheryl T.
17 Aug 2011, 01:30
Re: Annie, July 8, 2011

You asked about something for your thyroid. In 2007 I had my thyroid removed after years of doctors telling me it was within normal range. It was cancerous. Afterward was prescribed Levothyroxin. Shortly afterward I started researching bio-identical (Plant derivatives), and found Armour Thyroid, which I have been taking for 2 years now. It's like having a REAL normal thyroid. It takes a while to get it to a precise dosage for each individual, but you need to do this with your doctor's supervision and prescription. Hope u try it!
Becky
15 Aug 2011, 14:11
For all you anti big pharmacy, some of us can't keep our deseases under control no matter how much glucosime and chrondroitin we take. Every medication include supplements has risks and dangers associated with them. Just because you think something is all natural, doesn't mean you can't have a bad reaction and die from it. You personally have to weigh the benefits and the risks with every medical choice you make. So educate yourself and make informed decisions because you have to be in control of your lives.
Jimbobob
14 Jul 2011, 09:27
I've been able to manage my arthritis without prescription drugs which scare me. I take glucosamin, chondroitin, MSM. I also watch my diet and do reasonable exercise.
There's a great health sit run by an MD: ultrametabolism.com. It's been a real resource both for me and for helping others.
Patty K
12 Jul 2011, 12:06
While I don't take any of this stuff, it's pretty obvious that this site is all about big pharma...how 'bout writing an article about all the horrible side effects and DEATHS from THOSE drugs that are being touted as "miracles" on TV, in the press, and, oh yeah, on this site!
Barbi, Tx.
12 Jul 2011, 11:38
i have RA and i am feeling good. I take Methotrexate and Folic Acid for my RA. then i also take Soma for the Fibromialga, Valium for certain headaches i get, not all the time, and i have a thyroid malfunction, i have a heart murmor and i am on B P medication. I also have been given a potassin pill to take once a day. I also have asthma and use Provintal inhaler as needed. I am a side sleeper and when i wake in the morning sometimes my shoulders hurt. But other that that at times i feel good.
Annie
08 Jul 2011, 18:27
I agree about us taking prescription drugs..and the herb are null and void...This is why we have to take care of ourselves..Yes! I am greatful for the physicians...but they need to start incorporating in the natural herb as well. I would love to take a natural herb for my thyroid..diabetes 2, and cholesterol...that would be a blessing.
KAREN PATRICK
24 Jun 2011, 23:47
thanks for all great info, lov reading all articles.
Jo
03 Jun 2011, 12:03
Good to hear - I am very much sensitive to numerous chemicals in the air, water, meds, etc with Native American blood ...I have found numerous natural things to help much better ...but believe in having both for use and have worked in the field of natural things...It is very important to note any bad toxicities associated with anything including medications...Did you ever hear the jokes about the ads that tell you to buy a med and then list all of the adverse effects - yeah - that's for me -...so anything can have adverse effects even natural - anyone be also allergic to anything natural or non natural so caution is best - natural is first if possible...I know that working in the field Chapparal has always been somewhat suspect ---I use everything only when absolute necessary and anything natural not giving me a good effect I don't use again....I know that I used arnica homeopathic when I fell on the ice for a serious bruise on the leg and it worked very quickly but left me feeling a little coldish like I felt is was dong things to my circulatory system and quit using it immediately after and haven't used it since... The Amish that I knew of used it all through their lives with falls, etc and other things - some people are more susceptible than others....5HTP works for me in combination with a few other antiinflammatory herbs for lack of sunshine ...etc...but caution in buying this is necessary as some of it is sold that isn't good for you so the source is necessary and very minimal use for me is the goal...I prefer things from pineapple and papaya, etc and using digestive enzymes first without the animal extracts is prime....some ayurvedic things work for me and I always stop and rotate things....I have started to take some of the over the counter things like Aleve and tylenol, but it builds up and I have to quit that as well...so not happy about using those at all...due to not being able to get adequate amounts of the naturals for the same money ---but prefer the naturals...the same for animals - some of the anti arthritic drugs for animals can cause anemia and other things of the blood, etc...and the naturals are much safer usually....Most of the things on this list here I don't use --and have heard that some of them aren't good as chapparal and some I've never heard of myself since most people probably don't sell those alot if they aren't good...there are many that are great - each body is different and we must all have great respect for each other's individual differences and pass along the possibility of ALL toxicities in life - to one another.....for some people bees and nuts can kill them so just remember it's individual and your genetic makeup has a lot to do with it....thanks for sharing - I know some people that swear by Kombucha tea but I have argued the possibility of molds in there that harm the mold allergic and other things festering - so this gives more insight into my thinking and reading on that....even those that think they are ok on things may find that later down the line they aren't..but to each his own makeup...
Valentina
20 May 2011, 11:34
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13 May 2011, 13:43
Trained herbalists preparing their their own herbal products will be knowledgeable of methods for combining two or more herbs or preparing a single herb such that the toxicity of the final product is eliminated. The appropriateness of the herb applied depends on both the patient's underlying constitution and the prevailing problem. Therefore, prepared aconite might benefit one arthritic condition but not another. Aconite is inappropriate in most cases, but need not be dismissed, only respected. There are so many herbs and combinations of herbs that can benefit the arthritic patient, without adverse effects and with lasting relief.

However, I'm wondering how many prescribed pharmaceutical drugs should be avoided, and where is the article presenting that discussion? Look 'em up and consider the potential adverse effects:

http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/sec04/ch034/ch034b.html?qt=arthrit is

http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/sec04/ch034/ch034e.html?qt=osteoar thritis

http://www.medscape.com/
George the Witt
21 Apr 2011, 09:58
I too stuggled with pain after braking my an kle it was then I "discovered" the asian art of Rakki it worked wonders if you can f ind someone who has the "gift". Also try HA
dale
20 Apr 2011, 05:40
Ruth, Many yrs. ago It was suggested I take Red Yeast Rice for high cholesterol, by my internist. She told me there were NO side effects. From the very beginning, my Fibro. pain became worse. I later found out that the Red Yeast Rice is a natural statin in the purest form & I can't take statins for that exact reason of making my pain worse.

Good luck to everyone. I have gotten a lot of good info on this site thanks to all of you.
patricia
12 Apr 2011, 10:51
i for more than 10 years i am from grand ma school when your pain start try to rub your pain with some plain old vinegar put some on a washcloth very wet and keep rubing for about 5min pretty soon you will feel relief also try soaking some raisns in Gin for a few days try this it also works but i like vinegar the best
Gar
05 Apr 2011, 12:40
Arnica and Kumbucha Tea were mentioned by Dr. Oz on the show as being wonderful supplements to take.
A
28 Mar 2011, 13:17
I read that only 1 batch of trytophan (not 5HTP) that was contaminated was associated with esosinophilia myalgia. (That's why the FDA won't allow trytophan to be sold in the US.) But I have not seen anything about that in regard to 5HTP. I'd like to see the data to back up the warnings for the supplements at the top of this page.
Jenny Wonders
23 Mar 2011, 04:50
I have lupus and fibromyalgia since I was 11 years old, and I am now 26. I was put on prednisone, which is a wonderful drug but a very double edged sword. I was literally bedridden without it, but anyone who's taken prednisone knows that the short term side effects are unpleasant, and the long term damage it is capable of is even worse.

I began taking a supplement called OPC-3. After literally years of trying to find a pharmaceutical replacement for prednisone and nothing working, my prednisone doses down to 9 & 1/2 mg a day, and it's been over 8 years since I got under 15mg/day and was functional. I'm also taking about HALF of the narcotic pain medicine I was taking.

I do not work for Market America, the company that sells OPC-3. I have nothing to gain by spreading my story, other than to help other people who suffer from the same chronic pain I did, no matter what disease was causing it.

OPC-3 is nothing more than a powerful antiinflammatory powder, and since most chronic pain is caused by inflammation, that's why it works so well.

Don't take my word for it. Google OPC-3 for yourself and read up. Believe me when I tried it I thought it was BS and there was no way it was going to work, and I couldn't have been more wrong. It is the best thing that could've happened to me, and my chronic pain was off the chart.

Now, it's not a "miracle" supplement and I'm not trying to dupe anyone into thinking it is. I'm simply saying that after several years and approximately 8 different pharmaceutical meds that failed to help my chronic pain, OPC-3 was a Godsend.
Denise
21 Mar 2011, 13:28
I don't find this highly suspicious. There are and have been thousands if no millions of people who are so dependent on many cardiac drugs only to find if they are willing to change their diets, life stlyes and poor habits , they too can lower the amount of drugs they take and or rid themselves of them for ever. Of course this is with a Medical Doctor's assistance, as well as other professionals if need be.
MISS VITA M.KING
15 Mar 2011, 16:44
I AM 48 YEARS OLD,AND I CAN'T HAVE KIDS,I STOP THAT WHEN I WAS IN MY EARLY 20S.I KNEW THAT I SHOULDN'T GIVE BIRTH AGAIN.I HAVE A 27 YEAR OLD WONDERFUL DAUGHTER.I DRUNK ACAI,ALL OF THE TIME,PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY I WAS DRINKING IT.I WAS SURPOSE TO MARRY ANOTHER DOCTOR A CHIROPRACTIC,THIS THIS AND THIS IS WHAT HE WAS CALLED.A NOW STATESIDE,DOCTOR,LIVED OVERSEAS AND WORKED HIS PRACT.HE HAD A WAY,OF DOING MEDS.HE WAS ARAB,AMERC.HIS MEDICAL OUT LOOK WAS VERY VERY,US MILT.THAT DIDN'T STOP THE MY PAIN.AND WHEN I WAS IN PAIN HE WAS IN PAIN,THATS ONLY BECAUSE HE AND I WERE GETTING MARRYED,IN EVERY WORD.AND HE HAD A BACK PROBLEM.RUBING COFFEE GROUNDS ALL OVER YOUR BODY,THATS WHAT YOUR MAN DOES,THE COFFEE,GROUND,SIT OUTSIDE FOR HOURS.I THOUGHT IT WORK SOME,AND YES IT WAS ALSO THE MAN DOING THE RUBING,I "A REAL."I TRYED THE GARLIC AND THE VINGAR,THE VODKA WORKED BETTER,FRUIT OR,SOME SAY GIN,AND FRUIT.ONE OF MY YEARS GONE GRANDFATHER,SAID WHITE LIGHTING,HE MOVED AROUND LIKE HE WAS A DARN YOUNG MAN,WALKED LIGHT AS A FEATHER.AND HE LAUGHED ALL OF THE TIME,AND HE WAS IN A SINGING GROUP,THAT ALL OF THE LADYS RAN TO,HEAR AND SEE.KEEP TRYING THINGS THATS WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DOING,I HAVE HAD RHEUMAT.ART.SINCE I WAS IN MY EARLY 20S.AND ARTH.SINCE I WAS A TEENAGE.AND THE STUDYS GO ON.THAT IS A VERY GOOD THING.AND I HAVEN'T HAD A HEART PROBLEM,NO CANCER,I DID HAVE A LIGHT STROKE WHEN I WAS IN MY MIDDLE 40S,ON THE SIDE THAT I ALWAYS USED THE MOST.AND THAT IS VERY BIG WITH WOMAN THIS AGE AND OLDER.ITS REALLY IS A AGE THING.AND WHAT I FOUND TO BE VERY VERY TRUE,IT JUST HAPPENS,MENAPOS,HORM.NO,PERIODS,AND ONE DOCTOR SAID,WHEN YOU HAVE RHEUMA.ARTH.ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.MY SHOULDLER WAS DOING ITS ON THING,I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO OPERATE ON IT.MY ONE AND ONLY DAUGHTER WSN'T READY FOR SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH MY ONE AND ONLY LOVING MOTHER,THAT I HAVE HAD IN MY LIFE,SHE WAS OH NO,COME ON,MA,I TOLD THE DOCTOR,SHE HASN'T LET IT IN YET,SMILE THAT WAS THEN,SHE KNOWS NOW.AND SHE IS WONDERFUL.PAY ATTENTION TO THE LITTLE THINGS,THOSE THINGS,JUST HAPPEN TO WOMAN.MISSS VITa m king
NancyG
15 Mar 2011, 10:25
I suffer, and I do mean SUFFER, from Lupus,Fibromyalgia, Sjogrens, Osteoarhtritis, Migraines and a few other chronic diseases. I had a stroke at age 50 with no plausible explaination and did not know I had Lupus at the time. My daughter was diagnosed with it after having 2 unexplained miscarriages and was told by her doctor that "she didn't just wake up one morning with Lupus it had been there all her life". All her symptoms were exactly like things I had suffered from all my life at times, including the 2 miscarriages after the first child. To make a long story shorter, I was tested a few months after my stroke and after having been found to have 9 of the 11 criteia my doctor decided that even though the blood work was not all positive to diagnose me with Lupus. I was sent to a Rhuematologist and told the same by her. I am a believer in Vitamins, Minerals and Herbs so I was in a semi-remission at the time of testing because I had been taking my supplements again trying to get some energy and strength back after the stroke. I wasn't on a "Lupus regimen" then but was getting enough of the ones listed of the on the list I later found to help me. I have lost my list and after having been too busy to eat properly while trying to take care of 2 elderly parents for the last 5 years, that had strokes later in life due to uncontrolled blood pressure and sleep apnea, I am staying sick just about half of my time and feel bad all of the time. I got off the supplements for a variety of reasons incluing gallbladder surgery and then the illnesses with started. I am trying to find my list to get back on it again since I know that with the supplements and keeping the strees level under control I can get better again. I am NOT a Charleton or trying to sell something here ......what I am doing is trying to see if Arthritis Today was the magazine I got the list from or if it was one of the mags from th ehealth food store. these are basic supplements that you can buy at any vitamin, GNC or even your local Walmart and they do work. You have to double and triple your suggested dose for the first 30 days to get them in your system and then you go to a pretty normal dose but it takes you taking them every day. We have moved twice and I am looking in some of my stord papers to see if I can find this, but staying sick so much and having both parents in a nursing home now that I have to drive 35 mins. to see several days a week, my searching time and "feel like it" time are getting more and more limited. If anyone out there knows of this list please let me know. My e-mail is nngrav@aol.com. It really does work and is not as expensive or dangerous as the side effects from the prescription drugs. Unfortunately the doctor I had when I was diagnosed and taking these has left his practice here and I can't find him because of a contract he had with the clinic he was affiliated with here. If he knew you prefered to take supplements rather than prescription drugs he would work with you to take the right things and do the right bloodwork to keep you safe. I really miss him. I hope this will help someone else to get better and I am going to look harder to find my list because I am sick and tired of being sick and tired!! When I find it I will try to remember to post it here.
Susan Cassill
01 Mar 2011, 12:56
I have been sitting here reading all of your posts and still confused. Supplements work for many but not all. I was diagnosed with RA approx. 6 yrs. ago. I tried tramadol, and a few others until my insurance was canceled. We are self employed and they don't like to pay the large rheumatologist bills. My family doctor prescribes methotrexate, the only thing for RA he can prescribe. So along with that I take 90 Vicodins per month and 60 somas. My blood is taked monthly to make sure my kidneys, liver and other important organs are functionally properly. Still the pain is there. I know the disease will continue to progress without intervention of some sort. Any real advice about supplements or of an insurance company that will except someone with my condition would be greatly appreciated. My email address is scassill@yahoo.com
Graz
01 Mar 2011, 12:36
To all those that want to help themselves,

I have a question - how many of you know that most of your ailments start from your mouth/your teeth??? The more root canals you have, the more fillings you have, the more of "other" problems you have; infections, gengavitis etc. effect your whole body and all your organs. Think about it, the fillings they put in your teeth are chemicals, chemicals that leak into your blood stream. Your root canals are never bacteria free no matter how hard the dentists try and so eventually all that "crap" ends up in your system. What is a tooth? A bone - anytime you mess with the bone it causes other problems because of the bacteria that goes in there.
Don't believe - do some research yourself.
One way to start helping yourself it to do "oil pulling". Yes, you are thinking, what the heck it that? Research it yourself, because if I tell you what it is you might think it to simple to do .
Anytime you want help - IT HAS TO START WITH YOU and YOUR WILLINGNESS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Your doctor does not have all the answers. They only apply what they learned in the books. And you know what? you can do the same. Read and try new things/therapies.
Just like one medicine will not cure you, no one therapy will cure either.
Research coconut oil and it's benefits. Visit websites that have .org at the end of them - more reliable, more research. Dr. Mercola is okay too, although he tries to sell his products. Use your intuitions and don't be afraid to try some things.
BIG PHARMA WANTS TO STAY BIG SO THEY KEEP PUSHING THEIR DRUGS. IF A PRODUCTS CANNOT BE PATENTED, DRUG COMPANIES ARE NOT INTERESTED IN IT.
Hope this will help you to give natural products a try.
billcaithcart
21 Feb 2011, 16:21
did you ever hear of the pot calling the kettle black? there are no pharmaceutical drugs that don't have potential side effects but we don't see sites that only bring them to our attention. wonder if profit margins have any thing to do with it?
Carol Rainer
08 Feb 2011, 11:20
To Marlene: The VitaMix machine is wonderful. I use it for everything. Recently, ground up black rice and quinoa a couple of seconds. I've been looking for black rice bran and this is the closest I can get.
marlene
02 Feb 2011, 10:53
ok...will purchasing the vitamix and increasing the consumtion of fruits and vegetables daily help with the arthritis..? Also has anyone used continually the "Colorad" product with colagen..I use Calogel which is a gelcap. It seems to help a bit;however, sometimes it is subjective. I wonder what is helping and what is not. I was using a glucosamine product and found that the powder form was better for me...Anyone become involved in the Pilates machine to help with arthritis. Before I spend more money, I would like to hear from someone. The machine I am considering is $899 from Qvc. The Vitamix is over $300. Both need to be used , of course, which is a problem with alot of items. Consistent use of items. Thanks.I am on "celebrex--but hate a drug to be taken for lifetime.
Marie
01 Feb 2011, 20:41
I've been taking chaga extract all natural never need to worry about side effects. Chaga is a mushroom from the birch tree in Sibera. Has helped me with the arthritis and fibromyalgia. Check it out, chaga has changed my quality of life. The website is www.mychaga.com/marieshada
Marc Silag
01 Feb 2011, 13:42
ARNICA? I use this fantastic plant based remedy for anything involving inflammation or circulatory discomfort and cannot imagine why or how it could cause a miscarriage. I use it in it''s strongest preparation which is simply the flower of the arnica plant in a suspension of olive oil. Go figure!
Brian
10 Jan 2011, 17:13
I find this list highly suspicious. Let's see some INDEPENDENT research to confirm any of these claims.
Mary
18 Dec 2010, 11:09
Awesome website, find comments very interesting. To me supplements are the only way to go if at all possible. Lots of prescirbed medications have horrible side effects, some life long side effects. In 2008 I was diagnosed (took 3yrs & 3rd doctor finally discovered the problem)with Polymyalgia & Giant Cell. I have taken both Predisone and Methotrexate. Prior to the diagnosis the pain was so severe I was placed on Oxycodone (LaLa Land, USA). Thank GOD the horrible painful Polymyalgia has gone away at least for now. Sure wish I could find a supplement that would treatment Polymyalgia in case it returns.
daphne
07 Dec 2010, 13:38
I would like to know the magic cure that Judy Marcus is using. If this web site can give her my email address, I would very much appreciate it. I go between cimzia (400 cc per month) and methrotraxate l/2 pill (5mg) and I exercise, walk and eat healthy. I hope I hear from you Judy Marcus, as I would like to get off the cimzia, because of the side affects.
Dianne
17 Nov 2010, 09:19
Everyone needs 100% botanical suppliment, Zija, made from the Moringa plant. Google moringa, google Zija. I have begun drinking this supplement and after 2 weeks of everything that ails me I am seeing and feeling positive results. Want to know more, email me at dnaxt@aol.com. Good Luck to everyone.
Mel
16 Nov 2010, 23:00
I'm with Marilee and Georgia as well as few others,. I'm a fan of the use of Arnica in gel or creme form and it has helped immensley with soreness and swelling. I'm sure overuse of anything can cause harm. In its Homeopathic form I feel its safer to use in moderation and with caution.
sheila
16 Nov 2010, 22:05
External Arthritis Spray I would like to know more about this spray you had mentioned on march 17 of 2010, please, Thank You Too Lady V Marshall
Joyce
08 Nov 2010, 13:34
Ok, I have fibromyalgia. Cymbalta did nothing. Now the Tramadol does not work. But, yes, I did notice on Antibiotics, my pain level went down. That is because the NK Cells are increased. Something else natural that increases NK Cells is Magnesium combined with Vitamin C. It helps you sleep so take it at night. Sleep also increases NK Cells. Stress increases my pain level. Heat decreases my pain levels. Arnic (homeopathic) cream helps a little bit. Never had a reaction to that. Cherry Juice helps with inflammation. I mix that with a glass of wine and it helps me to sleep. I use a bean type heating pad you put in the microwave because I burned myself twice badly on heating pads. I drink lots of water too which helps. When I get a massage, my eyes actually go out of focus due to the muscles in my body finally relaxing. That lasts one day for pain relief and includes Reiki. My fibro came on after a leg injury and domestic violence stress. I too wish that pot was legal - not to smoke it, but to rub it on my back for pain relief. Hemp moisturizer is available but it is de-THC'd. It's a shame it is misused by the drug addicts. I can't take Flexeril or Amitriptyline - I crash for days and have a family to provide for. What used to work was Actifed but the original was taken off the market because the meth labs used it to make drugs. That would relax my back muscles, make me sleepy, but I was out of pain for hours! My fibro is worse during severe weather changes. My headaches stopped when I started taking Vitamin B and Zinc (deficiency). I can't help but think there is a natural cure provided by God somewhere but I respect natural medicine as it is potent and where all the modern medicine came from in the first place! Lexapro doesn't work and I am not depressed. I just want to be out of pain so I can move and work and live life. Some days this pain makes me cry and I miss out on a lot of fun. From what I understand, your body makes too much cortisol. So if we can get the cortisol production down in fibro cases - ta da, there we have it folks. There's probably a cure, they just want to make money off of us from what I see and "control" the pain not fix it.
ROBERTA
05 Nov 2010, 22:33
My right knee was swollen and hot, causing me to limp. After research.I started to take Dr. Theo's suppliments which seemed to help some. Then I discovered the holographic pattern of silent inflamation, the root cause of degenerative diseases, after reading Dr. Barry Sears's latest book "Toxic Fat".I dedicated myself to learning to follow the hormonial balancing of The Zone diet where hormones are balanced for optimine function of the body. I would like to share all that I have learned which is making a total difference in my wellness. However, all I can advise in this short statement is to read his latest book: Toxic Fat and educate youself on this wonderful way to enjoy great food as a prescription medication each and every time you eat.
Cathy Milne
02 Nov 2010, 18:34
Judy Marcus' comment SHOULD BE REMOVED from this site. I think she is doing research for a book. How awful to torment good folks who have REAL PAIN. She is the worst "person your mother warned you about" I am so angry about her post and I don't believe one word of it and neither should you! I was diagnosed with RA when I was 12 y/o. It has been in remission so long I think the diagnosis was wrong (I am now 52). The diagnosis I have now is degenerative joint disease, and degeneratrive disk disease. My uncle practices holistic medicine but the idea that he knows more about my disease and how to "cure" it is scarier than my illnesses. I have only myself to trust-I know my symptoms- as a retired nurse I know that doctors are not "all knowing". Exercise however you can, talk openly with your doctors,don't try anything you have doubts about (trust those little niggles you have). The best person to trust is youself-so do it-you'll be happier and maybe less scared.

I have sent an alert to the editors of this site and I would encourage others to do the same. Let's let "the Judys" of this world know we won't tolerate her @#!$*....!!!!
Jan
30 Oct 2010, 11:48
It's true that the first two, Arnica and Aconite in their gross form can be harmful. However, in homeopathic preparation form, they are nearly at molecular levels, and stimulate the body to react against the inflammation and other symptoms going on, therefore healing itself... similar to the way the new biotic(?) drugs work on a molecular level to turn off the key. These can be very helpful if taken to relieve the symptoms and not taken repeatedly like prescription drugs. DO avoid the full herb forms that have not been diluted many hundreds of times as those can be very harmful.
dede
29 Oct 2010, 23:31
Thanks everyone for the positive and most helpful input. I am very much in agreement that propaganda of marketers and media(whoever and whichever is paying whomeever the most money for whatever) is still our greatest evil in this country. I worked in the medical field many years and sit in on staff meetings where major insurance companies told the hospital what we could give and what we how much we could charge for it. I also have known physicians get fired for not admitting or fullfilling proper profits for the health care facility they were employed for...now...tell me some more..............
I research...many folks here are very intelligent and know what helps them....it is part of the process of .......living w RA
funnyhaha
28 Sep 2010, 14:56
I just wanted to mention 2 supplements that I use and have had a lot of positive results with.

I have fibro and neuralgia. I have used Magnesium Malate for 10 or more years, and I notice that my pain does become more severe when I run out of it.

I am also finding Vit D to be very helpful. I take 6,000 units per day.

Magnesium Malate has been used for years for fibro. My chronic pain doc recommended it for me.
jim
27 Sep 2010, 22:29
funnyhaha..u hit it on the nose...she's a scammer and full of SHIT.....thanks for the warning
funnyhaha
27 Sep 2010, 17:47
Judy sounds like an supplement advertiser. She won't say what her miracle cure was. Why? Because she isn't real. She is posting on a site that warns against 9 supplements, saying that they are dangerous. "Judy" comes here to say she found a miracle supplement, which makes everyone doubt how credible the warnings on this page are.

She states: "One day I wrote in my journal that I felt like death itself. That day someone told me she knew of a product that may help me."

Miracle timing! She was "death itself" and then someone happened to give her the name of a miracle supplement and now she is cured.

"I was in such a mess physically that I was finally ready to get it a try. It was the missing piece to my puzzle."

Sounds like an infomercial to me!

"It took 3 weeks for any notice of improvement and then one area by one area, the inflammation and of course pain was gone. I went to a pain level of zero and my C-Reactive Lab test went to normal range."

In 3 weeks, you too can be cured!

"I was written up in one of the exercise facility's magazines."

Really? How wonderful! If only you would tell us where and what you took!

"I was given my health back as well as my life."

Great! How?

"If inflammation is the bottom line of most all diseases, I am so very grateful that I found something that could be this powerful and have no side effects at all and be completely natural."

No side effects? It really IS a miracle! And it is all natural!


Folks, she is writing that she took a miracle supplement that treated INFLAMMATION on a page that is warning about the safety of several supplements that are dangerous when used. What do some of these supplements do? They relieve inflammation.

"Judy" either works in the supplement industry or is really rude. "Her" post reads like an infomercial (because it is one). "She" is trying to subtly over-ride your concerns about certain supplements. Why won't "she" tell anyone what she is taking? Because "she" wants you to go buy any supplement that treats inflammation in the hope that you purchase her companies product. "She" wants you to do trial and error, which means you will spend a lot on supplements in the hope of finding "her" miracle cure.

As soon as docs have a miracle cure, we will all know. There isn't a cure for chronic diseases. There will be. It will be expensive, which is why we will all know when it is available!

I am a big fan of supplements; I take several (5-6) daily. But I am not a fan of folks jerking others around on a web page warning about the side effects of certain supplements. Knowing that there are certain supplements that can be potentially fatal makes us careful about what we buy. "Judy" doesn't like caution because it decreases sales.
JIM
25 Sep 2010, 00:42
Did not answer me........maybe she died or doesn't even exist........
Jill
24 Sep 2010, 23:08
I am curious if any of the pleas to Judy Marcus for sharing the name of the drug/supplement/cure were answered?
Quite a few of you posted your email addresses, did she ever answer anyone?
Thanks
Shirley Schad
23 Sep 2010, 13:14
Judy Marcus, This is Shirley Schad again. If you read my first e-mail I didn't include my e-mail address. It is schadsj@cox.net. If you know something that will help people in the name of all that is decent let people know. Thanks
Shirley Schad
23 Sep 2010, 09:40
Judy Marcus, Who are you, and why wouldn't you share the information with all of us that might make a huge difference in the way we live and stuggle with pain daily. I have been diagnoised with scleroderma and I am mad as hell that this horrible disease exist. The medications that are available make you worse causing other problems. If you know something that can help please let me hear from you. Thanks, Sincerely, Shirley
Pam
21 Sep 2010, 14:50
SUZANNE.... if by any chance you see this... i agree with you!... antibiotics make me feel better!!!.. i also discovered this after being treated for a sinus infection... if only our doctors would use it more!!! ~pam
heidi schlossberg
21 Sep 2010, 13:40
I meant to say she went out of remission after 48 hours and was bedridden
Heidi Schlossberg
21 Sep 2010, 13:38
When my 8 year old daughter was dx'd 11 years a go with psoriatic RA, we tried all the standard treatments and stopped due to all the horrible side effects. I refused to put her on immune suppressive injectables. The Dr's looked down on me. Now the FDA blackboxed remicade and enbrel for children and adolescents due to cancer risks ( which is what I was worried about) Anyway, I got her 90% pain free from using straight msm ( 10,000 mg daily) It worked until Stanford did some innapropriate acupuncture on her and she went straight out of remission after 498 hours. Since then she is in constant pain, smokes pot for relief which is not good either, and I am desperately looking for another supplement to help. Judy Marcus, PLEASE tell me what you use and where to get it. Thankyou. By the way, I stopped donating to the arthritis foundation when I could not get any of them to conect me with members doing alternative treatments. I disavow myself of them . Pay attention editors!
mitzi
21 Sep 2010, 13:03
Judy PLEASE PLEASE email me or post to all of us what you were taking. Thank you and God Bless! deerfisherman2@hotmail.com
JIM
21 Sep 2010, 12:30
JUDY MARCUS....Your July 14 2010 story sounds great.Would you mind emailing me with the name of this wonderful cure your taking.

Also having OA for some time now I found a natural joint pain reliever called FLEXCIN out of Florida.See Flexcin.com......sure has helped me with the pain.

jennypup@shaw.ca
Kitty
21 Sep 2010, 11:35
Arthritis
kkellie
08 Sep 2010, 08:57
L-TRYPTO .. TOOK THIS PRODUCT as recommended by physican. IT WAS CONTAMINATED AND SOLD BY GNC .. ALMOST DIED AND MANY ACROSS THE WORLD DID DIE. THIS WAS 1988 but still do not trust many mfg's. CAREFUL!!!
Paula
03 Sep 2010, 14:26
Hello.

I am a massage therapist and believe in giving your immune system what it needs to heal itself. I have been reading all these posts and wanted to give a suggestion.

The mushroom is Coriolus Versicolor.

If you are interested in some GREAT research, just google it. It will astound you! Over 400 Clinical Studies have been done.

Why haven't we heard about this? It's simple, mushrooms don't have lips!!

You can find it on sale through the internet, but like everything you can't trust what you buy is the real thing.

I know of a company that produces it with a GMP Label/Made in US, they will be introducing this supplement to the world come October.

If you are interested please email me....please do the research for yourself!!


Sincerely,
Paula
paulamack@roadrunner.com

Bethene
28 Aug 2010, 21:16
Judy Marcus:

Please email me about the product you are taking. Thanks. "bethann@carolina.rr.com"
jennyb
27 Aug 2010, 16:12
You guys scare me. There are no miracle cures.
Joanna
27 Aug 2010, 14:08
Yes, we all have pain issues here. Yes, we are all willing to try new things which may relieve said pain. However, SHAME SHAME SHAME on people who use this site only to push their products. This is not a "sell something to me" site. This is a "let's try to help one another with different things that have worked for one another" site.
Mary
26 Aug 2010, 14:12
I have had osteoarthritis for 25 years from an accident, and a supplement I have used with success is SAM-E, a naturally occurring substance in the body that naturally decreases with age. It also is believed to help with depression and liver functions. It has made a world of difference to me.
Grama Maureen
20 Aug 2010, 09:53
COMFORT - NOT A CURE - but AAAAhhhh relief!
TAKE TWO WASH CLOTHS - SEW 3 SIDES
FILL THEM LOOSELY WITH 1/2 FLAX SEED
(found at a bird food store) AND
1/2 RICE. SEW THE FORTH SIDE CLOSED...
PLACE YOUR LITTLE PILLOW IN THE MICROWAVE
FOR 1,2 OR 3 MINUTES OR PUT IT IN THE FREEZER
USE THESE THERAPY PACKS ON YOUR PAIN SPOTS
TO GET RELIEF.
I make all different sizes of Therapy Packs out of cotton and have used them for years.
Mary Ellen
17 Aug 2010, 09:32
Judy Marcus:

Please email me about the product you are taking. Thanks

dandyseniors@yahoo.com
Amy
11 Aug 2010, 10:59
Brenda - posted April, 2010

Do you peel the fruit?
Graz
05 Aug 2010, 12:07
Judy Marcus,
You didn't say what product you used that gave you the miracules relief. Please let all of us know.
Kathy L.
03 Aug 2010, 18:19
I would like to respond to Pat R. and all others that are negative on surgery. I have had RA for 29 years and I'm 59 years old. I've been through all the RA meds and biologicals in all the combinations. Nothing really helps. The RA was so bad in my knees I had become knocked knee. I had my right knee replaced two years ago. It has helped the pain tremendously. I have had spinal surgery this year. My lumbar area was crumbling with stenosis, curvature and permanent nerve damage in my lower limbs. The surgery has resolved the excruciting pain I was sufferling and my need for Oxycotin. I will be getting my left knee replaced in a few months and not a day too soon. The way surgery, like medication, helps you is unique for each person. Always leave you mind open to try something new. I sought second opinions and references from patients before I chose a surgeon and it paid off.
Mary Ellen
20 Jul 2010, 12:24
Judy Marcus:
What product are you taking?
Karyn
19 Jul 2010, 08:39
Attention: Judy Marcus (post 14 July)

ALSO TO THE EDITORS: I appreciate that you need to edit out product promotion but there is little point (and some frustration) to being told in Judy's post of a great product and not to be able to find out what it is. For my part, I am desperate enough to risk publishing my email address here in the hope that Judy will contact me with the details.
Kazba@paradise.net.nz
teri farrar
17 Jul 2010, 16:53
I have been a qualified homoeopathic practitioner for approx 30 years. Here are the facts about Arnica: 1)Over the counter homeopathic remedies are commonly sold in 30c potencies - this means that the original plant substance has been diluted in a ratio of 1 drop to 100 drops of liquid and then "succussed" (shaken)to get the 1st potency and then one drop of that 1st potency is used to dilute 1:100 again to get the 2nd ...and so on. By the time it has been serially diluted and succussed 30 times there is no longer any molecular substance left - hence no toxic element exists! In the case of a 6c potency (commonly found in ointments) the dilution and succussion process would again have reduced the actual molecular level to almost nothing - hence again, no toxic level to be concerned about. Please note that just because there is no molecular substance to be seen under a microscope it doesn't mean that there is no healing element there. It has just changed to a different state (hopefully one day a quantum physicist will explain it all).
2)Homeopathic medicine is not specific to an illness but should be selected solely on the medicine's individual characteristics and how well these characteristics match those of the patient. ie The main guiding characteristics of Arnica is: "sore, lame, bruised feeling" and "limbs and body ache as if beaten". Hence, if your symptoms feel like this Arnica should help. Conversely, if they don't then it won't help and you may need a different homeopathic medicine.
3)Homeopathic medicine is prescribed in different potencies depending on the acuteness or chronicity of the illness. Hence, if you have Arnica symptoms and a 6 or 30 potency doesn't help then you may need a higher potency - and/or another complementary homeopathic medicine. Always best to consult a qualified homeopath.
4)Arnica can be helpful prior to and after operations. However, if the local anaesthetic is Lignocaine and Adrenaline then Arnica can reverse the adrenergic block localising the Lignocaine. So best to check with your anaesthetist prior to an op to see what they will be using. This problem does not occur with any other anaesthic.
In 30 years of practice I have yet to come across any other problems with Arnica. On the contrary, I have seen many positive results. Hope this has been of help to everyone concerned. Teri Farrar
Judy Marcus
14 Jul 2010, 11:20
This is the first time I have viewed this website and I am deeply saddened by the number of people that suffer from inflammation. I had a virus at age 40 that greatly weakened
my immune system and damaged my liver. I soon became queen of chronic fatigue syndrome, severe fibromyalgia, very severe osteoarthritis over most of my body and was diagnosed with a rare liver disease that would require a liver transplant. Life became very dismal. I searched all over the country for help and spent thousands of dollars looking for relief. I could not exercise because of the severe pain in every joint, muscle and cell of my body. I cried daily because of the intense intense pain. Chiropractic, accupuncture, and good supplementation became great help. But I was still in so much daily pain. One day I wrote in my journal that I felt like death itself. That day someone told me she knew of a product that may help me. I had been approached by 6 other people in a four year period to try the product. I was in such a mess physically that I was finally ready to get it a try. It was the missing piece to my puzzle. It took 3 weeks for any notice of improvement and then one area by one area, the inflammation and of course pain was gone. I went to a pain level of zero and my C-Reactive Lab test went to normal range. I was able to exercise for the first time and was able to exercise up to 6 days a week. I was written up in one of the exercise facility's magazines. I was given my health back as well as my life. If inflammation is the bottom line of most all diseases, I am so very grateful that I found something that could be this powerful and have no side effects at all and be completely natural. I now can have a life once again and thank God for letting me find this amazing relief.
Suzanne
07 Jul 2010, 08:55
Hello everyone. I have been reading many of the comments listed here. Just wanted you all to be award of something. If you have RA, Osteoarthritis, Lupus, RSD, Lyme Disease, juvenile Diabetes etc, you also have an AUTOIMMUNE disease. There are over 80 of them and thousands of people have one or more of them and do NOT know it. Science has discovered that this is genetic. Each of us has an autoimmune marker in our DNA that may- or may NOT become active if there is a trigger- such as an accident or some type of surgery. That is why so many of us feel better ALL over when we are on antibiotics for ONE condition. It works to help ALL autoimmune diseases ! I discovered this when getting antibiotics for a sinus infection- EVERYTHING felt better. Go to the national website for autoimmune disease - WWW.AARDA.ORG. Learn about WHY you feel so bad and what you can do about it !

Note: Fibromyalgia is not yet beliveed to be strictly an autoimmune disease , BUT it accompanies most other autoimmune problems and as such, I believe should be listed as one !

Check also- the NIH.GOV website and read about autoimunnity.

Best of luck to ALL of you in pain- I KNOW what you are going through, as I have 3 autoimmune problems ! God bless us all and help the scientists to find a cure for us -soon !

Suzanne
Mary Beth
20 Jun 2010, 10:19
Thanks for the comments. I appreciate the editors comment that every person is different and that what works for one may not work for others. I appreciate the arthritis foundation and other org or gov resources for research based advice and especially cautions on supplements!
I have RA and fibromyalgia (25 years) and am doing well on a combination of DMARD and supplements. I am using an older disease modifier-minocycline, an antiobiotic which is often used for acne in teenagers! Along with my prescription med, what REALLY helps is vitamin D (recommended by my rheumatologist at 2000 a day), which reduces muscle pain more than anything. Also good quality omega 3 oil (2 grams a day), ground flax seed and generic antioxidant juice blend (acai, noni, goji, mangosteen) and ginger capsules.Teaching water exercise (in a jogging belt, prayer and eating alot of fruits and vegies help keep me as healthy and positive as possible.
Deb
19 Jun 2010, 12:11
I have osteoarthritis of the knee caps and OA also moving into my hips. I have had arthroscopy then kneecap replacement on my right knee with the left one also needing to have a replacement. They say down the road both will need total replacements. I am 50 now having several years of pain in hips to knees. I went to 4 Dr. before getting help and really being listened to. I am overweight and working to lose this, walk about 1 mile a day, work full-time, now looking at going to pool for water aerobics. I am meds for high blood pressure, meloxicam for knee (insurance won't cover the celebrex that helped me more), potassium supplement, lasix (water weight in feet and lower legs), rest of meds related to asthma and allergies which do not help me. I sleep an average of 2 -3 hours per night due to constant aching from my hips to my calves in BOTH legs. I toss and turn a lot. Laying on my back is the best but need ice gel packs a lot to have relief. Any suggestions?I need sleep and relief from the pain. The tylenol just doesn't do it.
Vicki
15 Jun 2010, 15:43
Eating a healthy diet of fresh raw fruits and vegetables are certainly a way to heal the body and inflammation.Cooked food is dead food.There are alot of great recipes on the web for Living Foods.If you change the way you eat, you will certainly have a big impact on disease prevention, and control. Try it you may like it. You need to eat, so what do you have to lose ?
Betsy Ford
15 Jun 2010, 11:37
I have RA and since I am diabetic and already taking more pills than i care to, I have been looking for a natural pain reliever. I have a friend that is an herbalist but she recommended I ask someone else first. My doctor wants to give me more chemicals but after reading up on them I'm not all that impressed and i don't want any more risks to my health...diabetes is enough for me! Can you recommend something?
Ann
08 Jun 2010, 14:57
I have suffered with psoriatic arthritis since I was 19 years old and I am now 50. i also have fibromyalgia. I have been on methotrexate for over 25 years and have tried nearly every NSAID on the market. I took Remicade for the past year, but recently stopped it because of the awful side effects. I have been taking pain pills(hydrocodone) for years also, but with very little relief. These have been causing stomach problems and i also worry about kidney and liver damage from these drugs. There is only one thing that has given me adequate pain relief with no side effects, but unfortunately it is illegal and that is marijuana. There are so many people like me who suffer with constant pain and if this can help us, I don't understand why the government won't legalize it. I think that all states should follow Californias lead and make it possible for us to legally get the help we so desperately need.
dls
05 Jun 2010, 09:33
I have bone on bone in knees and hands. I use Gluicosamine, Chondroitin and Hyaluronic Acid. I take 100mg of HA a day. I take them in individual doses not a combined pill - it seems to work better that way taken about 15 minutes apart. I am in my 60's, still riding my horse and taking care of my barn (feed, stalls and turn out for 6 horses).

I also use CryoDerm (Arnica, Boswells ILEX & MSM) roll on for 'spot' pain - it works great!
The Editors
02 Jun 2010, 12:24
Hello Marci and Fellow Readers,
Yes, we're listening. Thank you all for your comments and inquiries. It's important to remember a therapy that works for one, may not work for others. Always consult your doctor before trying something new, whether it's a supplement, exercise program or over-the-counter medication.

All the best,
The Editors
Arthritis Today magazine,
an Arthritis Foundation publication
Marci
01 Jun 2010, 22:28
ARTHRITiS FOUNDATION ARE YOU LISTENING? "I used to take the prescription medications, but I was worse off from the side-effects." I concur this a 1000 times over. I am much healthier on the supplements. I am only disappointed that I could take boatloads of fish oil sam-E and others that my health insurance won't cover. It's killing me.

Here's who got me started in the right direction (for me). Skip Shoden CCN, here's his website : http://www.hghealth.com/skip.html.

Also a great research source is the National Institute of Health (NIH).

http://ods.od.nih.gov/Health_Information/Health_Information.aspx

They have a FULL LIST OF supplements and current research on many of them by the USA. :) Hang in there people! :)
Tina Scheir
01 Jun 2010, 17:07
I an 70 yrs old,was in a bad auto accident in 1993 and now suffer from OA. In 2009 i cold not raise my arms higher than my waist. I was told by two surgeons that they would not touch my shoulders but if I was interested in surgery, I should contact Dr. Mark Frankle at Florida Orthopedic Institute in Tampa FL. I have had both shoulders replaced, still healing, but can wash and comb my own hair and dress myself again. I was told that it would take at least one year fo each shoulder to heal completely and be able to raise my arms over my head. I am getting there slowly and the pain is gone.
God Bless,
Tina
Andrew Leavenworth, M.S.
01 Jun 2010, 14:33
Arnica and Aconitum are sold as homeopathic medicines (not supplements). These are regulated by the FDA and considered completely safe. Homeopathic remedies are highly diluted medicines that no longer have the harmful effects of the original substance. Arnica is most often used for traumatic injuries to muscles and joints. Aconitum is frequently used for the shock due to a traumatic situation, or the after-effects of trauma and shock.
K Harper
01 Jun 2010, 11:17
Does anyone know whether the Arnica applies to the topical form also? I have used it in the past for achy muscles and I was wondering if I should stop using it now that I have RA?
peggy
27 May 2010, 12:54
I have had Arthritis in my knees for a number of years. I had replacement in left knee and doctor wants to do it in my right knee. The recovery was long time coming. I was off work for 3 months. Took arthritis medication and caused ulcers. Only can take Vicodin. Helps, but causes me to be sleepy at work and doesnt always take all the pain away. Tylenol PM to sleep at night.

Breakthrough. A person gave me some Joint MD and I have been taking it for a week now and the Arthritis pain , is much less. In my sholders and wrists and hands. Knees are better too. Has any one else used joint MD?

Please Email me. Pros and cons...Doctor said I could try Glucosmine, But this doesn't have it. Has Ginger and Green Tea and MSM and other ingredents. Hopefully long term will be great. Please Email me asap. Along with others I might try. God Bless you and I pray your pain subsides.
linda
23 May 2010, 23:01
jo tuck, my pain in muscles seems to hurt more to ,I started taking fosomax about 1 month ago and thought it was just me.. any ideas of what to try next ?
linda
23 May 2010, 22:54
HELLO,1ST timer in here God Bless us all..op,crohns, colitis and arthritis in neck..I have been dealing with the one that hurts the most it seems late..I used lyrica for 2 weeks and it fixed up my fibro in shoulder blade ..really was great for me However I would get lost going to the store and forgot to check food cooking on the stove so Beeeeee Careful and have some help around..that was two years ago and seems now I need to try it again...I live in denial for now about the crohns , I had my colonoscopy in oct which resulted in 3 perforations and major surgery .. still doc wants me to use predizone with o p high fracture ....I take 5/10mg of vicodine for pain on neck arthritis and have been doing so for a few years ,its not working very well any more..very depressed down to 93 lbs . im 49 . greatful to be still kicking but afraid of whats around the corner..I worry about new pain in right side of tummy
Pat R
19 May 2010, 16:43
This is my first go around with reading letters. I, too, have just about everything that everyone else has. I have avoided any surgery or replacement joints just because I have had enough! But I am in pretty constant pain and am going next week to a pain clinic referred by our neurologist. I also take Vicodin daily-prescribed by my primary physician. The people I know who have had surgery seem to be in no better shape than I am. I don't think there is a miracle cure. I do believe all you can do is learn to live with it and accept all the pain relief you can get. Besides, I'm 76 and don't intend to live forever so why put myself thru more trial and errors --- oh yes, went to a chiropractor for about 2 months and nearly went bankrupt, but I felt better!
Jo Tucker
18 May 2010, 09:53
This message is in response to Laura Black's email. Thank you Laura...that was very helpful 'heads up' and I'll take your advice about seeing an oral surgeon. In the meantime, I'm doing a personal experiment and that is, not taking Actonel for a couple of months to see if the joint/muscle pain diminishes. At this time I can't tell if it's the med or that my OA is getting worse very quickly. As with most things...time will tell. I'll check back and offer a report on my findings.
Jeff - Columbia, TN
15 May 2010, 06:09
I've taken 5-HTP in the past & it helped. My issue is that I don't usually get to dedicate more than 4-6 hours of sleep most nights. So, when I was taking 5-HTP, it was either difficult to get up or I was very tired when I got up in the morning:

http://www.doctormurray.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14 0

From this site:
Detailed analysis of all the evidence by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) led to the conclusion that the cause of the EMS epidemic could be traced to one Japanese manufacturer, Showa Denko. Of the six Japanese companies which supplied L-tryptophan to the United States, Showa Denko was the largest supplying 50-60%.

I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, Peripheral Neuropathy, & Arthritis about 10 years ago. I've taken a lot of different medications, including pain medication (mostly Hydrocodone), but recently I started taking Suboxone. I began taking it back in Nov. 2009 (not because I was abusing opiates), and it has helps more than anything else I've tried. It seems to help with (what I associate with) the nerve pain, more than anything. I have also started taking Vyvanse & this made me realize that being tired all of the time is what was bringing me down the most.

http://eosinophilia-myalgia.net/
Pam
10 May 2010, 15:50
Dear sctbb, Try Castive, warming lotion. There is hardly any smell. Good Luck
Linda
05 May 2010, 06:55
I suffer from chronic pain due to osteoarthritis,spinal stenois,degenertive disc diease, and have taken alot of prescribed medications-not good for the body-to many side effects-so now I drink red cider vinegar everyday- 9 rasins soaked in gin a day-and I do Jack Lalanes juicing everyday-a little walk and feeling almost 100 percent better. I have had to many friends who have had kidney failure and liver damage due to the medications that are precribed for this type of pain.
psychdoc
04 May 2010, 20:30
Be careful with anything you take and pay attention to your body. About 18 months ago I was hospitalized with inflamations of the pancreas, liver, and gall bladder. Had to have gall bladder removed. Doc told me that if I had waited three weeks to seek help, I likely would have died of liver failure. The cause? Cymbalta. This is a RARE side effect but can happen. I suggest that you insist on regular blood tests. This information is now on the Cymbalta commercial so doctors are more informed on this.
Laura Black
04 May 2010, 18:34
This message is for Jo - and any others interested in taking Boniva, Actonel or other bone fortifying drugs. PLEASE HAVE AN ORAL EXAMINATION FIRST BY A QUALIFIED ORAL SURGEON -NOT YOUR DENTIST!!!! My poor mother lost almost half her teeth due to necrosis of the jaw bone (a "possible small side effect" with "low incidence") My mom developed abcesses and bone LOSS because of the drug she was taking to PREVENT bone loss! Her surgeon told her everyone that should have an oral exam before taking those drugs; he's gotten a lot of patients from women taking those drugs and doing what they thought would help them, but hurt them instead. Her surgeon said he told his wife she was NOT to go on it, he wouldn't allow it. For some it has benefits, but please ladies, get the oral exam FIRST and make sure you're not at risk for tooth loss or necrosis of your jaw bone!
Sheri
04 May 2010, 10:29
Lady Marshall

I am a long time sufferer of Arthritis since my spinal fusion in 1984 (and a few there after. I will need a neck fusion in the future. I have been told to expect to be a wheelchair due to nothing more than pain when I get older. I am only 39 years old. I am extremely interested in this product. spin757@yahoo.com

Thank you.

Sheri
Donna
04 May 2010, 09:45
I have had FMS since '91, and osteoarthritis forever, it seems. After my 8th back surgery, my pain Dr. suggested Cymbalta, and that has really helped. Perhaps it will for some of you as well. It is recommended for depression and fibromyalgia and seems to help me stay focused better. Good thing, since I am writing a book!
Jo
04 May 2010, 09:21
Has anyone out there had reactions to the bone drug "Actonel"? I have OA and is seems to be getting worse quickly. I'm wondering if it could be due to this drug? I'd appreciate any and all comments ... thank you.
Jewel
03 May 2010, 04:41
Lady V Marshall, Can you please tell me the name of the Arthritis spray? I am interested.
Janet Wilson
02 May 2010, 02:16
I have just come upon this website by accident. I have been browsing, as an arthritis sufferer, because I have found no relief from fish oil and was looking for some answers or alternatives. I have not tried any doctor prescribed drugs for relief, as yet, but am getting close to thinking that there may be no alternative. However, I have gained new hope from all these communications and intend to try a few other things before making such a drastic decision. I must say that I agree with those who say that even natural remedies must be included in the "unsafe" category, even if only to remind us that there is good and bad in almost everything in life, and because we apparently all react differently to substances applied to our bodies, whether internally or externally.
To repeat the caution I will say "RESEARCH"
Carol
21 Apr 2010, 21:17
A good site to get info about interactions between vitamins/supplements and prescribed medications is VitaminLife.com
Cherie
21 Apr 2010, 11:55
For Deborah Lantieri

Don't eat Sugar or any products with Sugar in them. I find the less sugar I eat the better I feel.
Brenda
20 Apr 2010, 14:32
I too have Rheumatoid arthritis I found the BEST REMEDY of all for this disease.. It is called NATURE'S PENICILLIN..It is good for rheumatism, colds, flu, sore throat, infections, respiratory problems, bronchitis, high blood pressure and an immune strengthener.Must Use A Juicer: Here is the recipe:...2 Grapefruits
3 Oranges
2 Lemons
3 Cloves of Garlic
1/2 large Onion
5 drops of peppermint oil. (If you don't have peppermint oil, melt about 5 pieces in some water and pour into mixture and shake very well. After mixing all ingredients pour into several glass containers and drink throughout the day, maybe three or four times. Keep refrigerated.
Cut fruit and onion into pieces. Place in juicer with i/4 cup of water. Add garlic, and peppermint oil. Medical value of each item used: Grapefruit: High in vitamin C which is an immune system strengthener. Grapefruits are valuable as it aids the body of eliminating poisons. Oranges are high in vitamin C and A. Known to decrease excess mucus from the head and nose. Oranges are good for rheumatism, high blood pressure pneumonia, asthma. Lemons are good for Vitamin B, C, Calcium and benefits the liver. Garlic is good for the digestive system, it is a natural antibody and is good for strengthening the immune system. Onions are for draining the mucus from the sinus cavities. Onions will also destroy worms and other parasites in the body. Good for colds as well. The peppermint oil brings oxygen into the bloodstream. It cleanses and strengthens the entire body.
I hope that everyone tries this will be able to tell a difference in just a few days. I Live By It..It will work.
Andrew
20 Apr 2010, 14:26
Arnica and Aconite are sold in the homeopathic form. Homeopathic remedies are highly diluted forms of the original substance that no longer contain the toxic levels of the original substance. This list is not well-researched and is misleading.
sctbb
07 Apr 2010, 08:49
I feel for all the people who suffer with pain daily, but I urge anyone to fight whether your alone or have people close to you, dont give in fight fight fight, do your research, make yourself priority one! I have problems with my knee and I like to workout 6 days a week. It started with our fourth baby that I had later in life I was practicaly 40, anyhow my doctor suggested I lose weight, i did and the pain went away mildly for awhile, 5 yrs later its back. I used expensive magnectic knee braces help somewhat, tried costly flexplex, triplex, and even life ext pills nothing, BUT rubbed alittle muscle rub from THE DOLLAR STORE on it took all of 3 min to work!! My advice try everything your worth it!My mission now is to continue working out and to find a rub without a strong scent. GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!
Dena W
06 Apr 2010, 14:06
Janet,

I take the RDA for everything but the honey and I eat as much of it as I want. I scored some "honey tubes" the other day at our local farmers market, they where made of all different types of honey (sour grape/apple/etc...) and I just eat those for fun!
Suzi
06 Apr 2010, 10:06
The only comment I have is that many, if not all, of the side effects listed as contraindications for these supplements are identical and less concerning than those listed on the drugs manufactured for the same purposes.
ron
27 Mar 2010, 10:24
ALL I CAN SAY TO PEOPLE W/ PAIN, REST. USE MILD MOST HEAT IF NOT SWOLLEN OR ICE AND HEAT. IF IN PAIN AND SWOLLEN USE ICE AND ALLEVE REST THE AREA ALOT. IF PAIN GOE'S AWAY START MOVEMENT AND SMALL DOSES OF THERAPY. SOMETIMES OPERATIONS ARE NEEDED.THINK ABOUT, READ ABOUT, PRAY ABOUT IT.
Lady V Marshall
17 Mar 2010, 13:39
This is in response to Joan Lichter (3/12/10) re: the fact she "received bad news" about her shoulder having osteoarthritis and an eventual shoulder replacement by a "special" shoulder surgeon. She's seeking knowledge "of a product that could possibly slow the deterioration/ease the pain so it might not be so drastic". Well, as a matter of fact Joan, I feel I could have something that can really help you. I have been involved with helping a company promote an external Arthritis Spray that is showing fantastic results for many people, including myself. What I like about this product is that it is not a "forever taking remedy". I In fact, I am trying to help the company find interested doctors to conduct clinical trials( with free samples) to enhance our efforts of showing how this product can save many from this devastating crippling disease. If you send me an e-mail or respond to my comment, I would be happy to send you some information and you can decide for yourself. Once you feel comfortable, we can at some point even talk with one another. I would not pressure you for anything and seek to answer any questions you may have honestly. Hope to hear from you---

Lady V Marshall
connie
16 Mar 2010, 20:39
Joan, have you checked out the article on this site: "How Olive Oil Reduces Inflammation"?
Have you seen a Physical Therapist or Occupational Therapist for pain relief advice and task modification advice?
Joan Lichtner
12 Mar 2010, 19:46
I have received bad news about my shoulder having osteoarthritis and an eventual shoulder replacement by a "special" shoulder surgeon. But I'd like to know if anyone has knowledge of a product that could possibly slow the deterioration/ease the pain so it might not be so drastic. I've been told I've got tears in rotator cuff as well. I know that I have beginnings of arthritis symptoms in other areas of my body which scares me because of how bad it can get. I've tried Osteo Bi-Flex pills with minimal results (gluc./chond., etc.). I went to my local health food store and picked up another product (shark cartilage), but after reading, you must take large quantities of it and I'm afraid I'll turn into "Jaws". Then I noticed another product which I'll discuss once I see if any good results come from it. I'm fatigued alot and have slightly lower red/white cell count than I believe is normal. I'm wondering if that's because of the "arthritis" trying to get me down. Plus, I have been a chronic sinusitis sufferer for many years (with deviated septum). My allergist of many years felt an operation wouldn't help. Now, I learned my brother had a nose operation for which he had dramatically improved in the beginning. Now, he hasn't had quite the positive results, but still better than before his operation. That is on my list, but money is a problem with large deductible for hospital (as in-patient). I wish I could get some feedback as to which should be done first: my shoulder pains me so bad, followed by my tailbone (thought was hips, but x-ray said hips are ok for now - I pray the Lord will allow that to stay ok while I'm suffering so bad). Tailbone was injured over 20 plus years ago and I know why that hurts. But don't understand my shoulder problem. I am also on a B/P medicine, so I need to be cautious about what natural products I can take. Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. I need some hope for a less painful future.
Cathy J
02 Mar 2010, 18:30
Attn Kathy Midkiff: I've had same experience and have no answers. Have you had any luck finding out why?? I have history of Lupus/Lyme Disease/Fibromyalgia and many other things, but no proof exists to tell me if Lyme is still an issue. That was the only reason I could think of for feeling better while on Cipro. It was extremely noticeable and I did mention to my dr. Curious if you have any answers...
Janet Clayton
02 Mar 2010, 14:10
to Dena W.
How much of acai. berry, honey, and cinnamon, are suppose to be used and how?
I have fibromyaglia, nothing seems to help.
Betty W.
02 Mar 2010, 13:33
Hi:

Have had RA for over 20 years, 6 surgeries (last one a week ago for the bursa at right hip area, always inflammed) and take 6 mg. Prendisone, Enbrel (25 mg. wk) and it keeps me moving. Take meds to sleep at night, cannot do anything when tired. I'm 73 and eat healthily. God Bless Us Everyone.

Betty W.
zackie
17 Feb 2010, 07:31
I have coccyx problems casnnot sit for long have to lie down does anyone have this. despite 5steriod injections and an op to shave off some of the tailbone
i am still in pain. the surgeon said my xrays showed no damage to coccyx but a lot of inflammation. am sick of spending money on
everything in health stores everythings a new cure for arthritis. sick of the painkillets and anti-inflammatories that i cant take for rebound headaches and stomache problems. have knee and neck arthritis cannot stand for long as behind my knees are in pain can only wear light pumps as i cannot walk with shoes. can any doctor or surgeon tell me whi i can walk
but cannot stand or queue for longer than two minutes.anyone want to do an mri scan asnyone with interest in this. this started 10 years ago.any trials going on
thnks zackie
Wendy
16 Feb 2010, 09:33
Now that you have printed this list, will you please print a "medications to avoid" list?

The medications I have been given/offered for sacroiliitis have given me a nasty rash, or they are contra-indicated because of concerns of high bood pressure... and the list of potential side effects are arm's length.

Gerri
11 Feb 2010, 16:38
Satinder you mentioned proprietary preparations, what are they?
kelly
02 Feb 2010, 16:04
My husband and I are both diabled and he suffers from diabities and his hip has been replaced, needing to be redone, go figure,anyway I have learned alot from reading your comments and am going to try the arnica get for my fibromyagia, phorisitic arthritis, my hancs are starting to cripple and niether one of us can use our hands in the morning. I hope some of this works it would be a wonderful things as we still have 3 minor children at homw and are on many perscribed meds. We too are financially strapped and need something that will not only work but we can also afford. And of course the pharmacutical companies can't gouge out eyes out if we find the curese for things that we all know are out there. thanks again!!
sue ellen
02 Feb 2010, 15:51
Annie,

I know it is hard, beleive me, I pray that you are feeling better. Please visit Rest Ministries website, there are people there that understand what you are going through, and will listen to your feelings. Please take care. I am praying for you.
Betty
02 Feb 2010, 11:40
I have arthritis in my right knee and have been taking glucosamine/chondroitin for at least four years. Now the surgeon suggests stopping this to see how I feel! Help.
Deborah Lantieri
27 Jan 2010, 01:34
The joints in both my pinkie fingers are huge and my pinkies are starting to bend inwards (disfiguring at the top joint) - I suffer quite a bit with pain - especially at night - I havent been to see my doctor yet but am planning to go soon - I am taking a supplement called arthroguard - which i take 3 times a day - I am only 42 years old - is this the start of arthritis and what can be done about the pain and is there anything I should avoid eating.
Eve
19 Jan 2010, 20:04
Kathy,
I have had R.A. for 4 years. Was given Doxycycline for sinus infection, felt wonderful, had a lot of energy. I am 64 years, with the med. I felt like I was in my 20's.
sandy
12 Jan 2010, 19:36
Ruth,

In response to your comment, I was so glad to see your comment re Red Rice Yeast as I had been taking it for several months and then came down w/ skin lupus! What a mess and what a bummer! I was suspicious of the product and now have some confirmation; did you ever rid yourself of this nasty disease????
Kathy Midkiff
12 Jan 2010, 05:30
Age 48, at age 6 JRA Systemic (Stills Disease) in wheelchair 2 yrs.Recovered until severe inflammation returned at age 13. Always prescribed penicillen tablet along with high doses of cortisone. Getting older I have noticed I feel better all over when I am taking antibiotics! Has anyone noticed improvement when taking antibiotics? I feel tired and when taking a dose of antibiotics I notice an overall improvement in various symptoms. I have not been concerned with my medical history until the last 2 years as i am wearing down and know this can go hand in hand with mild inflamation. Let me know if anyone notices a difference when on antibiotics please. Thank You
Gail Testa
11 Jan 2010, 10:13
Laura Heminger - Where do you find "TriFlex" I have searched for it on Swanson Vitamin's website and cannot find it. What is the brand name? Can you post a link to it? Thanks.
Tom
09 Jan 2010, 06:22
Dena W, how and in what dosages do you take the "Honey", Cinnamon" and "Acai berry"?



Betty
07 Jan 2010, 15:16
I have had osteoarthritis since the age of 45 and have been on different medications with usually good results for some time and then they quit working and I have to switch. The best thing I have ever done was to have laser spine surgery. A neuro-surgeon described the prodedure he would do to correct all the damage in my lower back, bone spurs, bulging discs, spinal stenosis and more. I decided I did not want to do the drastic conventional surgery and did a lot of research into the laser surgery. What a life-saver. Check into it!
Dena W.
05 Jan 2010, 16:23
I've been suffering for 20 years with fybro and now I have RA...oh joy...just more pain added to the pain I already have right?...lol I started taking "Honey", Cinnamon" and "Acai berry" and to be honest I can feel a difference...a big difference with NO SIDE EFFECTS!!! My aches and pains are less in intensity and I don't have to take near as many of my RXed pain meds (my goal is to get off all pain meds), and as a bonus I have noticed a HUGE improvement in my skin appearance! I'm in no way saying to rush out and get these supplements but it might be worth a try IF you talk to your doctor first and make sure none of these supplements will hurt you or interfere with the meds you are taking now! I'm all for anything that will actually work with NO SIDE EFFECTS! I refuse to take NASIDS btw, death will find me soon enough!
Laura Heminger
29 Dec 2009, 17:08
As to the controversy, it does not matter if the number of reactions to a medication (prescription or alternative/natural) is 1 or 1 million - by law it must be listed as a possible side effect or reaction. So, as many of you stated, do your research. Everyone's system is different. What works well for one, could easily be poison to another. Please remember this as we are all being so critical to each other's opinions. Personally, I would prefer to know what potential side effects, etc. are possible before I try something new. Doesn't mean I won't try it - just means I will do my research first.

As for relief - I, too, suffer from fibro, osteo, degenerative disk disease, & diabetes. I found a product quite by accident that I can no longer be without! I have been a long time devotee of GNC due to their product quality. I found a product called TriFlex - OMG when I do run out, I notice it within just a couple of days. The achiness & joint pains start coming back. I have tried OTC brands that have done nothing or have seriously irritated by system. This one has made a huge impact on my daily living. So as survivors of these painful horrors - DO YOUR RESEARCH NO MATTER WHAT ROUTE YOU TAKE!
annie
18 Dec 2009, 18:52
Hi, all. i was diagonozed with arthrities of the neck at age 41.about six months ago. really severely depressed. thoughts of killing my self. can not think of anything positive. the story about the guy who turns 60. with oa. made me smile of the indurance he has. i used two be like that. i wish i had some faith. also have hypothrodism( tyroide disease).
Linda
15 Dec 2009, 12:15
I have osteoarthritis. I've had both hips replaced, and have the doctors recommending both my knees be next, but I can't afford the time off of work. I've taken MSM for almost 10 years with great success,and take Aleve, too, and a recommended dosage of calcium and D are also helping.
What I want to know is about DIET. I know that lots of pain from inflammation can be avoided by eating the right things and eliminating those that cause the inflammation and pain--like tomatoes, eggplants (nightshades)--but what else? When I went on websites to check it out, they were a complete runaround--click on this one and went right back to where I started! Who has THESE answers?
Jan Ford
15 Dec 2009, 11:47
Arnica did not work at all for my RA.

Also, tried Ginger for several months, and it did not help either.

I take 3 mg of Prednisone, Doxycycline, probiotics, and several vitamins and supplements daily. Take Aleve when it's really bad. (The probiotics keep me from getting sick due to the Doxcycline killing the good bacteria along with the bad).

Have recently been drinking Certo gel in a small amount of Welch's Concord Grape Juice, but don't know if it helps.

Have read good things about Turmeric and may try that.

Years ago, Vitamin E helped my knees when I couldn't bend them at work and also helped my carpal tunnel in wrists.

I take 1-2 capsules of fish oil capsules at night now.

Glad I ran across this site and thanks to all for their helpful comments!
susan
15 Dec 2009, 10:09
how much fish oil are people taking to get good RA results?
Pamela
10 Dec 2009, 14:09
...Have been coming to this site for several months since diagnosed with RA,Osteo Arth. and Vasculitis of the Eyes,and have Heart condition since Birth {A Fib}and am scheduled for Thyroidectomy in few days for mass{6cm} causing problems with Trachea....I try to do Self Help Research for Conditions as RX Drugs {Meloxicam,Sulfasalazine} have caused severe reactions{Hospitalization}...trying to go NATURAL because I am so Chemical Sensitive...and then I read things like this Article and it makes me question the Glucosamine/Chondroitan/MSM, Omega 3, and the 5-HTP I take...can someone direct me to some accurate info on Supplements so that I can stop the Guessing Game...I live on Disability Income and cant afford to buy something that I cant use...and I DONT want to get stuck with just RX choices...I drink Green Teas alot, and alwys reading and researching their uses...ANY HELP OUT THERE????
Ruth
03 Dec 2009, 17:34
In regard to supplements, I have RA, and a year ago started taking red yeast rice supplements to lower my cholesterol. the RYR worked great for that, but unbeknownst to my doctors it apparently can cause joint pain and inflammation. Fortunately I found a nurse who knew that. I stopped the RYR and had amazing relief from the amount of pain my RA causes. Anyone else had that experience with red yeast rice?
Shenna
03 Nov 2009, 17:50
Hello all you people out there who feel that certain supplements and herbs should not have been on the list of "don't takes"... I think it right that those listed should be on here BECAUSE for SOME people (and enough in the past) those serious effects have occurred. Not everyone has the same body/genetic makeup. You might be able to take arnica, but I cannot take it EVEN in homepathic medicines in minute quantities.
Why does everyone think they know a magic cure-all that everyone can and should be able to take because that person takes it and it works for that person without any side effects??? GET REAL! This is NOT a 'one size" or "one drug" or "one herb" fits all people equally world.
People SHOULD be informed if there are KNOWN side effects that can be dangerous, particulalry ones that can cause death.
Hey, I am allergic to TYLENOL--and it makes my blood not clot. After years of fighting with doctors over this, guess what? Other people have been found to be allergic, some with the same side effects. Doctors now know that Tylenol can also cause other serious problems in people, including liver and kidney damage. And what about Ibruprofen, pushed all these years as a harmless and effective non prescription anti- inflammatory/pain reliever? Now they know it too can cause kidney damage.
And how about the St. John's Wort that so many people take for depression? My liver specialist told me of a case they had where the person needed an immediate liver transplant--a person who had been healthy without any liver problems-- that the herb virtually 'disintegrated' his liver.
SO why SHOULD'NT natural remedies be listed with known and dangerous possible side effects with that such? Don't we have a right to know? It would be a dis-service to the rest of us if they were not listed. People need information to make informed decisions. DO you think it better to take something, have a serious reaction, even life-threatening one, and then say "well how could I know that might happen? I never saw anything saying it could be dangerous, no one ever told me." THINK, RESEARCH AND KNOW YOURSELF BEORE YOU TAKE SOMETHING, be it a manufactured drug, a supplement, an herb or even just a simple tea.
Final share: you know that much hyped tea ROOBIOS with so many good qualities, even listed on my health providers site as "no known side effects? I have an allergic reaction with itching and rash...need I say anymore?
Pruedence Slentz
03 Nov 2009, 15:55
I have osteo arthritits and fibromyalgia - my primary care physician, rheumatologist, and orthopedic surgeon (knee replacements) have prescribed large amounts of Vit. D and it has helped the pain ( from fibro especially ). Hooray!

The weather still affects my joints (Grandma wasn't crazy after all ) but to a lesser extent. The orthopedist said most of his patients with fibromyalgia test low for blood levels of Vit.D.

Addie
21 Oct 2009, 09:22
I have been suffering from OA for years, I also have scoliosis. I have had epidurals, therapy, shots for blockage. The only thing that has helped and not a great deal is hydrocodon...but it is hard to get a Dr. to give it to you. I am fine when sitting or laying down. Up 5 minutes and I am in so much pain I have to sit down. Recently have been on natural product from the Greek Isles, guarenteed to help...so far after 2 wks. it has not helped....they even sent me a free supply and I take two a day..but not any help yet??? Would appreciate any help other then surgery, I refuse to go under the knife.....thanks.
Yvonne
20 Oct 2009, 11:15
To Martie & Karen,

I have osteoarthritis and found my miracle medicine a couple of years ago. Three years ago I could hardly walk and the therapist told me my hips were just about to lock. At the time I was on 6 Tylenol arthritis plus pain medicine daily. Along with pain patches you name it. I found FLEXANOL and tied it with noticeable relief. People can say what they want about Supplements, but I feel much better taking these than I did when I was taking all the other medication. My therapist could not believe how I could bend and I even dance. You can take up to 5 a day, but I only take two a day. Flexanol has made a big difference in my life.

Brenda W.
20 Oct 2009, 09:12
Go to this website: LDNINFO.ORG

Low dose naltrexone helps most autoimmune diseases. There are several clinical trials that have been done. You can read about them on the website.
Dee Morgan
18 Oct 2009, 16:06
This is for Sharon in Oklahoma City. Have you tried Dr. William Schnitz? He is at Portand near N.W. 56th St. His phone number is: 405-949-6481. He has been my Rheumatologist for years and he takes new patients. He treats my osteoarthritis and he is good. I hope this helps you. Good luck.
Wendy Maihack
15 Oct 2009, 23:42
Where's the research here?? Wendy M
Sharon
07 Oct 2009, 16:37
This is my first time to write, I have fibromyalgia, arthritis, AS,depression. The only thing I am taking for all this now is 10my loratab and percocet. I am trying to get on embrel as I can not afford it. We do not qualify for the help either. Yes we do have insurance but it only pay a small portion. I can not find a dr. to help either in OKC, Oklahoma. There are none to be found!!! They ALL have a 12month waiting list if they will take you at all. I hurt sooo bad most of the time I want to scream!!! My husband is understanding most of the time. Well thanks for listening.
Norma Turner
06 Oct 2009, 11:17
18 yrs with SLE-It's alarming the attack on natural supplements/ when so many drugs (FDA) approved - are only removed from market when people have alrady been harmed/ or a cover-up has been exposed.
Bradley
04 Oct 2009, 15:27
This is a baseless (well, it is FEAR-based), mis-information article motivated by greed.
Karen
16 Sep 2009, 05:14
I use Arnica and other supplements and am disappointed that Arthritis Today would publish an article of this sort. The title of this article is disturbing to say the least. How about "Nine Prescription Drugs to Avoid"?? I have severe allergies to most prescription pain medicines, but have not had complications with supplements.

I have osteoarthritis and take Limbrel (a prescription medical food), but also have to supplement using Arnica, Turmeric and eat pineapple for inflammation and pain.

I would like to know what studies were done and who performed the studies and what dosages/levels are considered dangerous or unhealthy rather than random statements that I am supposed to take as fact.

Extremely disappointed, Karen
lisa
08 Sep 2009, 02:48
health info
Bev
01 Sep 2009, 09:31
Hi;
Do you know of a good website that will tell me what pills do not go with other pills or medications?
I recently added Vitamin E to my daily pills and I read they should not be taken with other pills but I cznnot find out which ones.
Can you e-mail me your answer?
Thank you so much.
Bev Menzer
Kirsty Z
24 Aug 2009, 08:38
SAMe and tryptophan were banned due to a bad batch being made, bacteria are thought to be the cause of esosinophilia myalgia syndrome (EMS)and not tryptophan. To make sure that risks are assessed see a nutritionist before getting any nutritional supplement as they can assess risks, interactions with drugs and any nutritional deficiencies you may have. Treat the cause not cover up the symptoms.
dennis
19 Aug 2009, 10:26
I was dismayed on your art. of what to avoid.
It is obvious the majority of your comments
disagreed with your list. Prescription drugs kill approx 100,000 patients in this country. do you care to compare that to supplements, you wont. This was a fda list for sure.I am 66 and beset by arthitus, F.M.
headaches,depression and the litsny goes on
my wife is disabled from CFS, depression and so on. At this time i am using 2-3 k of c a day.(linus pauling lived to 92 and took massive amounts of c. like the other folks said "tryptophan?" will the fda take turkeys off the mkt. now. dietand some exercise, stretching in am(5min) can help a lot. I am so disappointed that this site would print a supp list, that i must unsubscribe dennis walker
Pat W
18 Aug 2009, 21:26
I think that whoever decided L-tryptophan had those bad side effects should know that I have FMS and all the doctor prescribed meds' side effects are so bad that the enamel on my teeth is gone despite all the available remedies. And that is just the beginning of my side effect list.

I received a reduced shipping coupon for L-tryptophan from FMAware for a web-site that sells the sleep supplement. Apparently they do not think there are bad side effects.
Brenda
18 Aug 2009, 09:36
For autoimmune diseases, check out this web site:

LDNINFO.ORG


It works. It's working for thousands of people. Most doctors don't know about it. This information is being spread by patients who are getting good results.
Kathy
18 Aug 2009, 09:20
As an owner of a supplement store, an arthritis sufferer, and a supplement user, the last two being the most important to me, I take offense to some of the supplements on the "do not take" list. Arnica in proper doses is safe. There are no known drug interactions other than possibly blood thinners. I know personally of 2 local physicians that have seen the results of using Arnica tabs prior to surgery. Much less bruising, faster healing, less swelling.

As for L-Tryptophan, that claim is, in my personal opinion, totally out of whack. Are these also the side effects of eating TURKEY??? What do you think makes you sleepy after eating turkey? The amino acid L-Tryptophane!!! Any and all supplements must be purchased from a reputable company and taken in the recommended doses. Has anyone noticed that the side effects listed above are also almost always seen on the side effect list of PRESCRIPTION medications as prescribed doses?
Emmy
13 Aug 2009, 01:55
Accupuncture has done wonders for my RA. The pharmaceutical companies want you to buy drugs not herbs. For me, natural has been the way to go. Medicines have only brought me to place of massive side effects and dependency. I will continue some medicines for short periods of time. The body holds on to these strong chemicles much longer than it does herbal and botanical ingredients which are much more easily assimulated by our system. Please note that this cite is also sponsored by a phamaceutical company. That could very well be why so many natural products are on there hit list.
Joyce
11 Aug 2009, 08:23
I was reading some of the comments and noticed one that said natural products take a while to start working because they are not loaded with chemicals. I am a chemist and I can tell you that natural products are chemicals. Some are natural and others are manmade but they are all chemicals. Lest you think all natural products are harmless remember that in the middle ages they used natural products to poison people. Natural products can be very good for you but you have to do your research.
bren
04 Aug 2009, 19:31
I take a number of supplements and love it! I was at deaths door back in 2004. My doctor diagnoissed me with UNDIFFERENTIATED CONNECTIVE TISSUE DISEASE which is more than one auto - immune disease flareing up at a time. I have RA,Fibromyalgia,Osteao.,DDD,DDJ, Lupus and more. I have had several spine surgeries Cervical (neck) Lumbar stillhave 3 more spine surgeries to go through same area with one in Thoracic. They had me on all kinds of prescriptions, we have tried so many different meds.Even Infusions Just got taken off Orencia it stopped working. I wake up and go though out the day and night in lots of pain and swollen,sore joints,fingers elbows,shoulders, knees, ankles and toes! I live off of a certian pain med. that I am tring to get off of. I was orginally on a very high dose but I am down to 10mg. 4 times a day as of today. I take Noni juice from Tahiti9 only) Mango Xanjuice,These two I feel God lead me to them! They saved my life but of course God is who gets the real credit! I now take Honeybee Pollen, Ribose chewable,Vit. B-12,These I take just for energy. I have severe fatigue. I can tell a great big difference when not on them. I also take more supplements several more if anyone is interested in my list please e-mail
Once again I give credit to the one it is due and that is my maker GOD !!! If not for him I would not have found the 2 juices that got me up out of bed. There is quite a bit of supplements out there but as with anything you have to research and study and use common sense!
As for the manmade Prescriptions yes it is true they can be very very bad for us. It is all BIG PHARMACIA they use it to make money off us. There are cures but if we were all cured at the 1st office visit where would they be? Again supplements,vitiamins are safe and most are made from Gods green earth
So do your work and follow up and research and use as it says.
Jo
04 Aug 2009, 09:13
I agree with the comment made by retired nurse Janet on July 22nd. I too take natural supplements to ease the pain of Rheumatoid Arthritis. I used to take the prescription medications, but I was worse off from the side-effects. I had to search until I found something that works for me. I now take tumeric, natural joint, and sometimes I add a little ginger to my tea. I'm not totally without pain, but I don't have the side effects of using prescription medications. Nurse Janet, if you can give me any more suggestions, I would greatly apprecite it. e-mail me at barlowjoanne@yahoo.com. Thank you
Lorena
28 Jul 2009, 15:16
My 14 year old son was diagnosed with Juvenile Arthritis about 2 years ago I would like to try natural stuff before any prescription meds, he takes ibuprofen for pain and I rub his body with lotion; and that is all I'm are currently doing for him.
Can someone please suggest a good regimen
I'm in the dark here
Carla Boehm
27 Jul 2009, 09:48
I have found a great supplement, and the biggest result so far is depression has lifted. The fog is gone and the fatigue is better. My son was the first to notice...says I am out of bed more.
Check out it's ingredients and how to buy and or sell on my website: www.chronicpainandliving.com
pm
27 Jul 2009, 07:14
I don't know anything about L-tryptophan's effectiveness for arthritis, but the comment about it being illegal in the US is way out of date. There was a ban on tryptophan supplements for some time because a serious illness (EMS) had a suspected link to a contaminated batch of tryptophan supplements, but insufficient data was found to substantiate that link in a FDA report released in 2001, and the ban was rescinded in 2002.

Perhaps the owner(s) of this page might take some time to check or update the facts?
luis lugo
27 Jul 2009, 06:12
RA for two yrs, nothinf working, 10 mlg of predisone a day, and methotrexate wkl. Now I am taking mangosteen. I would like your opinion on mangosteen.

vr, luis
Richard Lewis
24 Jul 2009, 13:23
The Bombay Gin and raisin cure seems to be very effective in relieving the joint pain of
arthritis, so says the many forums on the subject I have read.....The best gin to use is Bombay because it contains juniper berries and 9 other botanicals. What you do is soak a bunch of "golden raisins" in a bowl of the Bombay gin for 2 weeks, or until all of the gin has evaporated. Then eat 7 raisins a day....The golden raisins contain "sulphur dioxide, similar to MSM, the darker raisins do not...Try this famous cure-all first before you try anything unnatural...If you are allergic to "sulfides," then do not try this cure.
Janet
22 Jul 2009, 12:08
I am a retired nurse.I have seen the results of the pharmasutical industry and the side effects that it has caused.I have seen people taking meds for the side effects.I am 53,haven't been to a doctor for 25 years,and yes, I do have arthritis,depression,and found more relief and less side effects from natural herbs.You must do your research and not pick the first company that comes along.Yes, it takes a few weeks for any herb to kick in,because it's not loaded with chemicals to help it,that's why it is called a natural treatment.Taken as directed,not in excess and it will work.
Joe Blow
21 Jul 2009, 16:46
Briget

Oprah is still popular because people like you keep watching her :)

Turn off the tube and think for yourself.
bridget
21 Jul 2009, 16:38
I am a baby boomer with no current health problems but a great deal of my friends have arthritis.This is why i Subscripe to this newsletter because it is very informed.However,there is a growing industry in seattle and it is called alternative medicine and it is on the increase.Why? Why would anyone want to take 30 or 40 pills a day when there is no scientic evidence that these pills work.I sold vitamins and i have seen how the companies push these pills are cure alls.Vitamins arent pills...they are drugs and some of them contain stuff in there
that can harm you.Look at vitamin c.A new study shows that vitamin c does not stop colds and that goes for this omega 3 and fish oil.Vitamin D in large quantities can harm you.My late boyfriend was taking a great deal of this and too much D is bad for the kidneys.Can we all use common sense and not the advice of Oprah? Oprah is on the verge of destroying common sense when it comes to serious ailments and some of the advice on her show I dont take because it is faulty and can harm you..so why is she still popular?
Paula
16 Jul 2009, 21:05
Satinder
You say you "found some proprietary preparations for joints that was made from natural, well respected ingredients. ...and have suffered no deformities of my joints."
--I have been on 5mg Prednizone, 20mg/wk.Methotrexate and 2,000mg Sulfazine for 14 years. Still I'm extremely fatigued and deformities are setting in. I would love to stop all of it. I tried to get off the Prednizone very gradually--told my RA doc and he gave me Salsalate and Voltarin Gel. When down to no Prednizone I felt terrible. Doc gave me a shot & I went back on Prednizone. The new meds sound kinda scarry. Wish I could learn more about what you did.
Satinder
16 Jul 2009, 15:37
Florence and Ellie,
I agree with your comments. I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid arthritis 15 years ago. The doctors put me on non-steroidals as well as methotrexate. I used to feel tired and exhausted all the time and my joints felt terrible. Then I found some proprietary preparations for joints that was made from natural, well respected ingredients. I have been off the medicines for 11 years now and have suffered no deformities of my joints. When I got on these products, the doctors were ready to put me on steroids. Thank God I didn't have to do that or else I would be sufferring from all kinds of side effects from those. I am not necessarily saying that drugs are bad and must be avoided, but I am saying that there are proven and useful remedies out there that work. But beware of the false claims and make sure the products are manufactured properly.
Ellie
07 Jul 2009, 15:31
FLORENCE......I find your article
right on target. Exactly my sentiments.
Bravo for you!
Florence
07 Jul 2009, 12:12
Arnica is an Excellent product, both topical and ingested. L-tryptophan is naturally occurring in Turkey - should we take that off the market too? Unfortunately there was a bad batch of L-trptophan.

Every Supplement mentioned is safe when used properly. Just because the Pharmaceutical companies can not are not able to make killing on the products does not make them dangerous or bad. These products are manufactured under safety guidelines and one can request Assay and R&D information.

Natural Remedies have been around a lot longer than synthetic drugs. Besides, have you ever thought about where drugs came from? Herbs, roots, etc. Homeopathic Remedies have been around longer than pharmaceuticals and Chinese Med./herbs too.

Maybe your article should have been written a little differently: Let your physician know what supplements you are taking that are working for you. Make sure your Pharmacist knows the supplements you are using before you start a new drug so he/she can run a Drug Interaction.

Let's face it, there are more lethal and non reversable side effects to Prescription Drugs than there are to herbs and Homeopathic Remedies which have been around for Centuries!!!!
Kari
17 Jun 2009, 21:30
I was interested to read others' comments on arnica. I have used it _topically_ with success. First experience with it was an "Arnica & Joint Massage" at the Calistoga Ranch in CA. To date, _still_ the best massage I have ever had. I bought some Kneipp arnica oil afterward. Rub it on your joints and muscles after a hot bath or shower -- great! Perhaps the warnings should have clarified ORAL vs TOPICAL uses.
Marcella
11 Jun 2009, 14:12
I have recently found out that due to the 4 surgeries I've had from an auto accident has left my entire thorasic vertebrae inundated with arthritis. They fused my neck, now I have spurs.I have such a difficult time with the pain, sleepiness. I go to a pain MD to get epiderals only to last a week or two. I get so depressed with useless quality of Life. I was so active, I'm a sculptor and need input for natural healing.Thanks for reading.
lindy emery
02 Jun 2009, 13:14
i used arnica for 5-6 yrs. after having 65 injections in the abdominal wall 8-10 wks a yr. i then could swim although i am non-weight bearing and that is the best exercise
for a whole lot of chronic pains. without it i could not even straighten out on the bed which has been pretty much the only place i am when i am at home per docs orders.
maggie
29 May 2009, 00:15
Has anyone tried pentosan polysulphate fo R A
Brenda De Pol
17 May 2009, 16:19
In New zealand we used to use Green Lipped Mussel Powder in our horses feed to treat arthritis. It is amazing, our 32 year old horse could not be ridden but after treating her with Green Lipped Mussel Powder in her feed she was soon able to go on short rides again.
Lanelle
03 May 2009, 21:04
I had a respected surgeon tell me to take arnica when healing from a surgery. I take various supplements daily, HOWEVER, I must say that anything that is not regulated can be risky. I have also had heart valve damage from a medication that was a researched and regulated medication that is now not on the market. That was risky too. I am on Methotrexate and other stuff. THE KEY IS to weigh the risks vs the benefits.
Alex
21 Apr 2009, 09:18
I take Adrenal rebuilder (derived from bovine organs) for the last couple of months now due to adrenal fatigue. I find that I am no longer needing to sleep an excessive amount to function. I have more energy to socialize and exercise.

Once you have to take meds like methotrexate that wage war on your body....my liver shut down and I got mono, bronchitis, and pneumonia back to back. The thought of some alleged potential contaminants isn't scary. Besides how much of our food is not contaminated or over processed? To eat fish for the omega 3 content or worry about mercury? That is the question..... How about try everything and see what works for you. Listen to your body's responses and you can never go wrong with your health.
martie
14 Apr 2009, 14:11
I hate cortisone more than any other drug that I have been treated with for my S.L.E.. I never had a weight problem now I do!I had a back operation to replace disc and a fusion in my neck. I believe it was caused by the cortisone.I have reflux and cannot take any of the med for arthiritus.I only take painkillers when I have to and rest as often as I can, try to eat healthy and do some exercise. I also take supplements omega 3, calsium and a good multivitamin.Nothing helps for the tiredness.My medical aid will only pay for cortisone and antimalaria drugs I find they do more harm than good.

Martie.
Bobbie Wayne
27 Mar 2009, 20:35
Per Arthritis Association

Arnica
Arnica Montana
Claim: Relieves aches; an anti-inflammatory and immune enhancer
Why it’s among supplements to avoid: Can cause miscarriages, allergic reactions, paralysis, heart palpitations, death
Georgia
17 Mar 2009, 20:01
I have used arnica homeopathic gel and ointment for many years. In the homeopathic format the drug is in such a minute quanity that it is in no way harmful in my experience
Lola
16 Mar 2009, 17:20
I dont believe arnica is bad I have used it for 2 years now. I was unable to walk after surgery on both knees. after 7 days of using super crema milagro with arnica from Mexico I can say the cream is like vaseline and you rub it deep into the skin and it works like magic! I can say that you can die from arnica if you DRINK IT it is not made to drink. but!!! it is good for inflamation and it takes the pain away. also kombucha tea is good for you. depends? on how you make it? I have lots of friends who grow it and pepare it to drink. laurelfarms.com person who grows it you can order from them.IF it is bad for you why have they not shut down LAUREL FARMS??? She is the QUEEN of KOMBUCHA. I would try any nautral remedy 1st before putting a MANMADE DRUG into my body!!!!
Michelle
16 Mar 2009, 16:50
That info warning against 5htp is way illogical if you look into it...
http://eosinophilia-myalgia.net/
contaminated 5htp was a man-made issue that has since been corrected by safe practices in the processing and importing of supplements. Its an amazing supplement...look into it for depression and anxiety due to the arthritis...its wonderful.
carol dostal
16 Mar 2009, 10:31
There's a difference between using an herb topically (rubbing on the outside of your body) and ingesting (swallowing) it. This category of herbs/supplements are described as ones to avoid 'taking'. It is both infor-mative and interesting that you were helped by applying arnica gel to joints and/or pain-ful muscles, bones. I'm going to try it.
marilee
07 Mar 2009, 23:21
i use arnica gel all of the time and it works wonders! i cant believe that this is on this list. i completely disagree. its funny, we are not suppose to take certain things and yet is okay to fill us up with prescription drugs that have horrid side affects.

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