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Lab Test Guide

Learn what your doctor is looking for when he orders a vial of blood or draws fluid from an inflamed knee.

By Mary Anne Dunkin

More than for most other diseases, the diagnosis and treatment of arthritis require a hands-on approach. By examining your tender joints and muscles and listening to your description of your symptoms and their severity, a doctor can usually get a pretty good idea of what’s going on inside your body.

But there are times when a doctor needs information that only a laboratory examination of bodily fluids and tissues can reveal. When he needs to confirm a diagnosis, monitor disease progress or medication effectiveness, or determine if the drugs you’re taking are causing potentially dangerous – but not evident – side effects, lab tests are in order.

The majority of lab tests are performed on blood because it is easily and safely sampled and it holds many microscopic clues to what’s going on throughout the body. Other tests may require urine, joint fluid or even small pieces of skin or muscle. Whether you’re just beginning the diagnostic process or completing your umpteenth year of treatment, the following information should help you understand some of the most common lab tests you’re likely to encounter.

Making a Diagnosis

While lab tests aren’t needed for every form of arthritis, they are very important to verify and confirm the presence of some diseases, according to Robert Lahita, MD, chief of rheumatology at St. Luke’s/Roosevelt Hospital and associate professor of medicine at Columbia University. If your symptoms and physical examination suggest rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, Sjogren’s syndrome, Lyme disease or one of a few other inflammatory forms of arthritis, the following tests can often confirm your doctor’s suspicions:

Antinuclear antibody (ANA) Commonly found in the blood of people who have lupus, ANAs (abnormal antibodies directed against the cells’ nuclei) can also suggest the presence of polymyositis, scleroderma, Sjogren’s syndrome, mixed connective tissue disease or rheumatoid arthritis. Tests to detect specific subsets of these antibodies can be used to confirm the diagnosis of a particular disease or form of arthritis.

Rheumatoid factor (RF) Designed to detect and measure the level of an antibody that acts against the blood component gamma globulin, this test is often positive in people with rheumatoid arthritis.

Uric acid By measuring the level of uric acid in the blood, this test helps doctors diagnose gout, a condition that occurs when excess uric acid crystallizes and forms deposits in the joints and other tissues, causing inflammation and severe pain.

HLA tissue typing This test, which detects the presence of certain genetic markers in the blood, can often confirm a diagnosis of ankylosing spondylitis (a disease involving inflammation of the spine and sacroiliac joint) or Reiter’s syndrome (a disease involving inflammation of the urethra, eyes and joints). The genetic marker HLA-B27 is almost always present in people with either of these diseases.

Erythrocyte sedimentation rate Also called ESR or “sed rate,” this test measures how fast red blood cells cling together, fall and settle (like sediment) in the bottom of a glass tube over the course of an hour. The higher the rate, the greater the amount of inflammation.

Lyme serology This test detects an immune response to the infectious agent that causes Lyme disease and thus can be used to confirm a diagnosis of the disease.

Skin biopsy Taking small samples of skin and examining them under a microscope can help doctors diagnose forms of arthritis that involve the skin, such as lupus, vasculitis (inflammation of the blood vessels) and psoriatic arthritis.

Muscle biopsy By going a little deeper into the tissue than with the skin biopsy, the surgeon can take a sample of muscle to be examined for signs of damage to the muscle fibers. Findings can confirm a diagnosis of polymyositis or vasculitis.

Joint fluid tests – In this procedure, which is similar to drawing blood, the doctor inserts a needle into a joint space and removes fluid. An examination of the fluid may reveal uric acid crystals, confirming a diagnosis of gout or bacteria, suggesting that the joint inflammation is caused by infection.

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Emily
17 Jan 2012, 13:57
I was diagnosed with lupus and rheumatoid arthritis after years of my pcp doing scans and bloodwork and it took me going to a rheumatologist to figure out what was going on. she ordered like 40 different tests. so i have had lupus and RA for over 3 years now and im only 26. i have been on methotrexate and plaquenil for 3 years now. to help with the pain, they put me on remicade and benlysta one after another. both gave me side effects that no longer allowed me on that medication. im tired of being on pain meds and want something that will truly help me. i also have cystic lung disease and barretts esophagus, which makes me unable to take any sort of NSAIDS. anyone know of any other treatments that helped them???
Just a RN with chronic pain
28 Dec 2011, 22:56
this is for all of you, who cant find help. doctors are not the say all end all for your medical problems, if your being treated badly complain to his medical team, complain to your insurance company to no longer list them as approved MD, call him a ass to there face. your paying THEM for help. you dont have to doctor shop for pain meds but for a decent MD, i interviewed mine when i finaly got health insurance i looked around,
I became a nurse because i had a bad MD when i was a teen and i suffered for yrs with GI issues after many tests cause he couldnt figure out i was lactose intolerant,
my own father who lived states away who has RA was treated for that but, the MD thought all his problems where from that or smoking, they retired he switched and that MD saved his leg, which had blood clots, i could have tool one look and 5 min assment to figure that out, needless to say just cause they went to 8 yrs of medical school doesnt mean there smart or even care
Sharon R
13 Dec 2011, 01:51
In 2008 I saw a rheumatologist. He ordered a bunch of lab work. Two weeks later upon my second visit he stated I have R.A. He prescribed methotrexate, relephen, and Norco for the pain. I went to him as he accepted cash patients. I then qualified for medicaid since I was a single mom with three kids. So I had to see his partner. Who completely changed my diagnosis. He said fibromyalgia . He also stated he didn't believe in prescribing pain meds. My job was physical on my feet daily. My physical pain was so severe I could just cry constantly. All I could do is work. Then nothing at home. My social life is non existent. I can barely walk from my bed to my kitchen. I recently married and have insurance. So I went to a third rheumatologist. Who again says fibro. He was hateful and verbally abusive. Told me to join a gym. I have been so depressed I've actually thought of ending it. The pain is unreal. It's my wrist hands knees and feet. I've been made to feel like trash for taking one pain pill a day. Prescribed by my primary care Dr. I am not a person who would ever willfully over medicate, nor do I have any history of addiction. I'm not even a drinker. I want to simply have some relief. I was a talented hair stylist. Now I can barely style my own hair. I haven't been able to work in months. I feel like this doctor seriously over stepped his boundaries. He actually said he is going to write my primary care doctor and tell him I do not have RA and for him to stop writing me the pain medication. I have a cousin who is a DEA agent. I understand there are people who abuse these drugs. However I have never run out before its time. I've never gone to another doctor to get more. I hate being made to feel like a bad person for simply wanting a little relief with severe debilitating chronic pain. I'm desperate for answers. How can I have an elevated sed rate and RAFactor then and now he claims I dont yet he didn't allow me to even look at my results. He gave me a pamphlet about fibro then stated he doesn't believe it exist. A mom who wants to be able to walk around the zoo with her little boy. Please help me.
Jacquie
04 Dec 2011, 09:12
I am very frustrated! I have been diagnoseed with Ankylosing Spondilits. I have the HLA-B27 gene. I have been in pain for 10 years. It started with just muscle aches and dizziness. Then progressed into joint pain so bad that it would keep me up. Then my SI joint started causing major problems. My back does out it i just twist wrong. I have very limited mobility in my spine. I wake up in the morning and pray that I will be able to funtion that day. Ithis is difficult because I own my own Personal training studio and I love working out. I am now at the point where I am so limited. Im only 42! I have been resurching my health for a year. I now feel there is a possible link between my saline filled breast implants and my sickness. As crazy as it sounds, it all started right after my implants 10 years ago. I also have reseached the link between the gene HLA-B27 and breast implant complications. I will be removing my implants soon in hopes that it will improve my health. If anyone has implants, it might be worth your time to check into the possibility of complications.

http://implants.webs.com/biotoxins.htm

My goal right now is to get well and inform as many women as I can that you they are not crazy. These symptoms that you are experiencing are not in your head. It could quite possibly be your implants.. WISH ME LUCK!!!
Danielle
02 Dec 2011, 20:28
I am at my end, I have been in pain all over my body as well as my joints since I was about 15. I am now almost to 30 (yikes). I moved and have now been seeing a new Rumo. She has run many many blood test for R.A. all which have come back positive. This last test she did my levels were off the charts (enough that she made me come in to tell me). My problem is that she will not treat me for R.A. because my mother had R.A. My Rumo. Says that it is just in my blood bc my mom has it. All I get for an answer is that I have O.A. Fibro and many different kinds of arthritis. I currently do water therapy and yoga (that is very painful). So I know I am not sore due to lack of exercise. I guess I just need some advice … is it possible that I can test positive for R.A for 3 years with increasing levels and its only bc my mom has R.A?
karen O.
23 Sep 2011, 11:31
This is for Lacey:
Please consider seeing another rheumatologist for a second opinion. I question why you are taking Methodone long with the other drugs you mention and I've never heard of 250 types of RA! I've had RA for 44 yrs. I had 2 flares when diagnosed at 41 yrs., 2 short rounds of cortisone (without knowing I should take calcium with vit. D at the same time), tried oral gold, Naprosyn, Celebrex, take Plaquenil (42 yrs.)-watch your eyes-- "fields of vision"/peripheral vision loss with that). When one M.D. isn't a good match, try another until you find a helpful one, one you're comfortable with, can talk to etc. He/she is out there. Good luck.
karen O.
23 Sep 2011, 11:25
This is for Marcia:
Please see a specialist, a rheumatologist. If need be, ask for your M.D.'s referral to one. when you have a special medical problem, you need a specialist. Family practitioners are very knowledgeable but they are not specialists in particular areas of medicine.
Sunita
27 Aug 2011, 23:01
Hi
I have been suffering from joint pain since a very long time almost 4 years. But my RF test had been negative. Now I got the RF test done in dilution and the result was 700. Is this reading very high? Is my condition very severe? I am clueless as what’s happening me with? The Dr. gave me oral steroids. Plz help, I need information about these test results
Sunita
Marcia
13 Aug 2011, 08:55
I am so lost without this information, i am currently seeing a doctor that is in Family Medicine. When i went for a doctors visit , she prescribed ,flexril, and ibuprohen(motron) 800 mg. but it helps releive the pain, but itkeeps me exaustied. i can't really function. I've been diagnoised with reuhmatoid arthrist since 2008 but i work and didn't really take my diagnois seriously. Then it hit me ,2011 aug. stiff as a board, couldn't hardly move. needed to see a doctor. my doctor that diagnoised me went into another field and i could no longer see her. well i got this doctor and i'm on flexeril and the ibuprohen, which keeps me so light headed all i can do is sleep and rest. Can't work like that!! I'm a stocker at your famous W stores. going back to doc' see what can be done as far as what meds i can take? in order to function on my job. hopefully i can get back to work. Any comments?
Dilys
09 Aug 2011, 15:36
I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis in 2002 by a rheumatologist. I'd come to accept the Fibro and always being in pain, but in the last couple of months, my arthritis has gotten very painful, and the medications I take don't seem to have any affect. I have had several ANA tests since getting sick, and each time my ANA levels were elevated, but my RA tests and SED rate tests were negative. Lupus has been ruled out.

I'm very interested to see others' responses, Ann. Maybe someone has some good advice.

One thing I do know is that ANA stands for Anti-Nucleic Antibodies, which attack the nuclei of the body's cells.
Lisa Frances
21 May 2011, 00:26
Hello, I hope that I might be of some help or can maybe answer a question or 2.
I AM NOT A Dr. NOR SHOULD ANYTHING HERE BE USED IN PLACE OF MEDICAL ADVICE.
1st if you don't understand something ask your Dr. to explain it until you understand it if they aren't willing find another Dr. or get a 2nd opinion you can also speak to a Nurse & a Pharmacists. Dr.'s that you should be seeing are a Rheumatologist, Internist, Endocrinologist, Neurologist, Pain Management, Homeopathic/Preventive Medicine Chiropractor, Massage Therapist, Accupuncturist, Go to a medical supply store or your local pharmacy (for various items ranging from support to added assistance) Have lab work done, Find a support group, Read everything that you can pertaining to your illness, & all perscription instructions, interactions & keep a list of all meds. get copies of all test results & bring both to all of your medical appointments. Some things that you can do on your own- stretch, do some form of exercise ie: walk, ride bike, lift weigths or use thera-bands to tolerance, wear shoes that have proper support or use inserts, pace yourself-take breaks, get fresh air & sun (use sunscreen if out for a prolonged time)put a pillow under your knees for back & leg pain, try various pillows & choose 1 that gives you support & comfort, try to go to bed 1/2 hour earlier, learn to meditate, biofeedback or guided imagery, take vitamins, eat 5 small meals a day, working on computers use a wrist rest or rolled up towel, adjust heights of chairs, screens as well as time of use. In the kitchen there are all types of gadgets to assist you from opening jars, carrying, holding, reaching etc. Roll bottom of feet on cans, bottles, frozen juice tubes, use hot/cold packs for sore muscles or joints as well as shower, bath, jacuzzi/hot tub, or capsasian rub, absorbing junior. LAUGH, try to keep on a schedule, maintain interactions with family/friends. Ask for help pray & keep the faith, I know that it may not feel like it but you are not alone. I hope that this maybe of some help to you & that you may find some comfort & or assistance in your day or life.
Take Care & Be Well.
Lena
20 May 2011, 11:47
jane gerber

I know what helps me, hopefully it can help you as well!

I take one potassium pill at night all year around. In the summer when I sweat more, I take too. When my potassium levels get too low I get these really horrible cramps. They can be on the front of my legs, on top of my feet etc.

You can buy these over the counter.
jane gerber
19 May 2011, 00:33
I need help to deal with charly horse cramps in the growing muscle of upper thighs and night cramps in lower calf and feet. I cannot get quninie medicence from doctors. I do drink tonic water for some help. It is trouble when I try to sleep. Sometimes I troubled every two hours with severe pain. If any one has any advice for a peacefull sleep please help me. jane
Pat
29 Apr 2011, 08:27
Epsom salt bath (nicely warm) for my whole body or a bowl soak for just my hands helps with the pain and releives stiffness within a few minutes. My arthritis is early on but my mom at 85 swears by it.
gerald r.
26 Dec 2010, 10:56
about 18 years ago i was in a car accident. i was sore for weeks. i went to the docter and was gave skelaxin ? i was working i had a major muscle spasim or cramp that bent me to one side , i felt felt a muscle from center back tear ,like a peice rope pull up to shoulder blade. i could not sleep for a week . i felt shockey. i went to chriopractor and recieved some relive, he had thermal graphic film . he showed me i had two hot spots at back of head and center of my back. about a week later i stepped out in pitch dark night i felt half my face kinda go numb . i went nerualigist.but anyhow now i find myself feeling strange, shockey after physical activity. back head throbs,aches and pain down right side back . my family docter took xrays of my neck and say he saw some calsolfication ? that i proably had form of arthritis . but anyhow i am 49 years old. taking antidepreants , anxity medication. and lots of ibuprofrin .i steel have bad days where i feel stange ,kinda shockey. i,m unsure what specialist i should seek ?
Carmen
07 Dec 2010, 14:17
Lisa Chastain,

I have an aquaintance who is also self-employed and without medical coverage. The medications and tests needed to treat RA are expensive. If you live near a research university with a hospital ask about clinical studies. My friend is part of one through a top notch university, and she is finally treated with Enbrel.

Sometimes the drug companies will give you their drugs for a nominal fee. All you need to do is ask. I get Enbrel through my medical insurance, but Wyeth helps with the copay. Ask your doctor about the programs. If you go untreated your joints could become damaged.
Lisa Chastain
29 Oct 2010, 19:11
Is there any help through the Arthritis Foundation to help pay medical bills with someone that has no insurance? Need Help .Self Employed.
vanessa
24 Oct 2010, 18:36
I have been experiencing extreme pain in several parts of my body that interfere with my every day activities. I no longer have the quality of life I use to due pain and fatigue. My doctor sent me for a blood work up. I received a letter from his office in the mail stating that my blood work was abnormal. I needed to come in immediately and see him. He told me that my blood work showed that I have Rheumatoid Arthritis. He said that his facility didn't have what was needed to help me being that they will have to do certain procedures with my blood and so on. I was sent to Rheumatologist. She did no tests didn't even look at the report and told me I have Fibromyalga. Can a blood test for Rhuematiod Arthritis be wrong?
Lacey
27 Sep 2010, 13:27
I have severe pain in my wreists, elbows, ankles and knees. Somedays I am so tired and painful I cannot move. My Dr. a Rumatologist, says I have RA. All my tests are negative. Even the DNA test. I am taking Plaquenil, Mobic, percacet for break thur pain and Methadone 3 times a day. I do not have the quality of life I am use too. I was very active. I have all the symtoms of RA accept no hot joints. So now my Dr. says I may have Fibro. I have no symtoms of
this at all and don't feel that is my problem. I am wondering if it is possible to have RA and
it not show on the blood tests? I sometimes feel people think I'm faking, I have better things to do than fake an illness. If I don't have RA? then what do I have? and why did my Dr. tell me to stay on the RA meds.? He also told me there are 250 different types of RA. I'm confused and tried of Dr.s and feeling bad!
Mindela
15 Sep 2010, 14:55
to ayodele:

Have you considered your hip may be referring pain to your leg and hip? Sometimes either osteoarthritis or labral tears can be the cause. You would need an xray and MRI with contrast of your hip to see if that is causing your pain.
Patrice
10 Sep 2010, 10:40
Grateful that there are specific tests that measure different aspects of the disease and even more thankful that I have not had to take most of them listed above. I personally cannot imagine a needle going into a swollen joint and extracting fluid. OUCH. I think that in some cases these things are necessary but I think they are relied upon too much by both doctors and patients. Patients are often subjected to more stress and pain unnecessarily. Doctors need to be more concerned with finding underlying causes (which are known and do exist) and less concerned with running tests in order to prescribe meds.
Judy
28 Aug 2010, 12:54
I was recently diagnosed with arthritis in my hands, wrist, and hips; I'm sure I also have it in my feet. I do not know what kind of arthritis yet since I can't get in to see the Dr. until mid-October. Before I was laid off, I had a fall at work and hurt my wrist, elbow, and hip. After a few months of physical therapy, the pain wasn't going away so the Dr did MRIs and found arthritis. I have been researching to find home rememdies for pain since I'm allergic to codeine - the drs won't prescribe anything else at this point. I've read that exercise helps pain greatly, but have not had that experience myself. I do gently stretches and light exercise but they always aggravate the pain. I am more depressed than ever after reading this page but am fortunate that my arthritis isn't yet worse than it is. I wish I could help someone out there but I can't even find something that helps my pain. Even the arthritis compression gloves offer little relief. I am at my wits end and just don't know what to do. I worked as an Admin Asst but can't type that fast anymore - and typing hurts. I am a graphic designer and oil painter and use my hands extensively but it's getting difficult to even clean my brushes. I am going to continue my search for relief and will post anything I find that helps.
Bonnie Walton
06 Aug 2010, 19:09
I've read through almost all the postings on this valuable website. The most common comment seems to be that their doctor(s) do not explain much of anything to the patient and they desperately need answers! Our local newspaper carries a column "Ask Dr. Gott," whom I consider "my doctor." That man has an incredible medical knowledge and conscientiously shares in great detail his responses in order to help people. I cut many articles out and file for reference. He gives lengthy explanations, the pros and cons of procedures, suggestions as to type of doctor they could consult, etc. He recently announced that he now has a website, called askdr.gott.com.which would be beneficial for many of the persons who write about inquiries that no one seems able (or willing) to answer. I hope you can post this information and perhaps help more people whose doctors give them no information or help. You are doing a great service for these people, many of whom have suffered for years and perhaps gotten worse for lack of information and care.
Bonnie Walton (805) 348-9234
ayodele
01 Jun 2010, 17:12
It all started in 1998 with the knee. two years later diagnosed with Osteo. Well, I did play paddleball for 25 years and I can almost understand the wear and tear. This is 2010 and though I still have pain in the knee and almost went through the knee replacement four years ago , it is actually the opposite leg,buttock, thigh, calf that is giving me HELL. I have taken many test and no one seems to find anything other than scatica which is supposed to be causing the leg and back pain. Well. I can deal with the knee pain at times but the leg pain is unbearable-the dr. can not seem to come up with a diagnoses and do not know who to send me to to find out what it is or may be. All he keeps saying is we have given you all the test I know of. What if someone else can help me. He told me if I can come up with a Dr.he would consider sending me to them. Only I do not know WHO to look for and what may to ask about my PAIN anymore. Can anyone give me some advice, websites, suggestions,questions to ask?or even test to consider.
Pat
15 May 2010, 01:14
Carole A., what I found online indicated that RA progresses in 3 stages (one source said 4).

Perhaps your doctor was counting the number of affected joints--there are 20 joints in the fingers and thumbs of both hands alone. This count is used to help make the diagnosis of the disease and monitor its progression.

Good luck to you.
ddsugarbear
24 Apr 2010, 18:47
I was diagnosed 3 yrs ago with severe RA. Now they tell me that it is very common that it will also turn into Fiber.....I lived in FL where they gave me percoset for break thru pain and methadone for chronic pain, which worked great for me. Then I had to move to PGH because I lost my job and home cause I could not work and cannot get a dr to perscribe me methadone for chronic pain. I don't understand it. It is not a "get high" medicine and works great but they won't perscribe it. They just keep trying to give me morphine, which I don't want to take. I take enbrel shots, methotexate, mobic and predisone but still in constant pain in my knees and all over my body. Cannot find a good pain mgmnt in pgh. Anybody know one????? Thanks for listening...God Bless
Carole
24 Apr 2010, 02:58
Would someone please answer my qustion about the different stages of RA? I have been diagnosed with RA and told by my doctor that I am in stage 8. Please someone help me find what this means?

Thank You,
Carole
Carole A.
22 Apr 2010, 15:04
I was just recently told I have RA, and I'm in stage 8. Could someone explain to me what this means? And what this is in relation too?


Thank You,
Carole
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29 Mar 2010, 13:43
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Valerie
18 Mar 2010, 07:32
Is there anybody out there to help me in 6 weeks i have had to have 4 steroid injections in different parts of my body.My specalist tells i have in infection in my R/A i asked what i can do or take he gave me no answers.I have got Bronchestais of the lungs also i have an oesopagus problemn having to have it dialated twice a year.look forward in some one replying to me.
The Editors
11 Mar 2010, 16:33
Dear Carol and Fellow Arthritis Today Readers,

While we aim to provide important and timely information to help you and your health-care team best manage your arthritis and related conditions, www.ArthritisToday.org and Arthritis Today magazine cannot diagnosis or provide specific medical advice for specific individuals with arthritis and related conditions.

Each person's case is unique, therefore, the information we provide is meant to help keep you informed of the latest treatments, future treatments and management solutions, all of which should be discussed with your physician and fellow members of your health-care team prior to trying the solutions.

Thanks for reading,
The Editors
ArthritisToday.org and Arthritis Today magazine
Carol
27 Feb 2010, 23:01
Left this message 2-27-10
Could you please inform me if there is any danger to me with these blood results ? Many thanks. Carol

Just recieved a copy of my blood results. I've had RA since 1997. Had recent test which is extremely high, more than ever before. THESE WERE TAKEN 2-24-10

RF 1,912.0 High(normal is up to 20.0)
CRP is 2.5 High(normal is up to 0.9)
SED/ESR 75.0 High(normal is up to 20.0)

Comp Metabolic Panel
Sodium 135.7 Low (norm is up to 144.0)
Chloride 97.4 Low (norm is up to 111.0)
Carbon
Dioxide 32.3 High(norm is up to 32.0)

CBC
RBC 3.83 Low(norm is up to 5.40)
HGB 11.5 Low(norm is up to 14.0 Women)
HCT 34.1 Low(norm is up to 47.0

THE FOLLOWING WERE TAKEN 2-5-10
You'll NOTE anything which was not run between these two periods of tests, were either in NORMAL ranges or weren't ran at all.

CL 100.7 Low (norm is up to 111.0)
Glucose 112 High(norm is up to 105)
GFR(F)
Creatine 0.72 Norm(norm is up to 1.09)
GFR(F) 88.12 Has no numbers to related to however it has numbers out in front of STAGES such as stage 1 thru 5 wherein my number 88.12 falls into the category of Stage 2. I have a fatty diffuse liver due to methotrexate use I was told, also with little holes in my liver with one fatty grizzly looking line across the kidney with one which branches off of it appearing to section the liver into three parts.

CBC also ran:
HGB 11.4 Low (with normal up to 14.9) but I think I read somewhere that womens are rated lower than this.
HCT 35.8 Low (normal rate up to 47.5)
Lymph% 50.2 High (normal rate is up to 45.8
Gran% 37.8 Low (normal rate is up to 77.1)
Diane
18 Feb 2010, 11:11
Hello all! Just found this site--and am glad I have a chance to ask the "experts" a question! I am an "expert" too---my expertise is PAIN!! I have been a Fibro patient since I was diagnosed in the 80's by a very forward-thinking neuro dr. She told me I had Fibro way back then--before it became "popular". I also have a host of other illnesses--myofascial pain syndrome, degenerative discs, arthritis in many places, ulnar nerve problems--and it goes on and on! I live w/chronic pain 24/7--even with the amount of morphine that I take! I go to a pain doctor and an internist for my meds.

OK--my question is this: For many years I have had a blood test reading of GGTB that is in the 250-300 range--which is so abnormal that I had to see a rheumy dr. He said it was a "fluke"---but I never can seem to find out exactly what GGTB is? I know its a liver thing--but I cant even find out about it online--where you can find just about everything! Can one of the experts help and explain what GGTB is? Thanks so much!
Jennifer
29 Jan 2010, 11:32
I am allergic to sulfa drugs and would like to find something I can take for the osteoarthritis in my hands. There are days it hurts to hold the steering wheel and the pain has gotten to the point that I do not shake hands with anyone and cannot grip items. I am also looking for some exercises. I am a secretary and a quilter so my hands are extremely important to my livelihood.
gj moore
08 Jan 2010, 19:38
ra and episcleritis have in commom.ra inflammation joints and episcleritis
inflammation of eye-biologic remicade.
did remicade infusion cause episcleritis
request med clarification
Editors
28 Dec 2009, 12:14
Michelle,
It's possible that the barometric pressure (which is influenced by altitude) in Colorado had an affect on your arthritis. Check out our recent article on the subject:

http://www.arthritistoday.org/symptoms/pain/weather-pain.php


Thanks,
The Editors
Arthritis Today magazine
Michelle
22 Dec 2009, 19:42
I was diagnosed with JRA (juvenile rheumatoid arthritis) when I was 13 and am now 32. I've found that going to the gym regularly and keeping up on my medications work wonders. I have taken Celebrex, Ansaid, and many other meds and have had my fair share of cortizone shots, but have had the best luck with my current prescriptions. I'm taking Enbrel shots and methotrexate and have not had a flare up in a couple of years. Before my doctor started me on Enbrel, I had been going in at least once a month for cortizone shots in both knees. The Enbrel worked almost immediately. Another thing I found that was strange was, about a month before my doc put me on Enbrel, I was having a bad flare-up week. My family went to Colorado for a winter vacation and my symptoms seemed to disappear while we were gone. Within hours of returning home, my knees swelled up again. Coincidence? Maybe. But I've wondered since then if the altitude has anything to do with flare ups.
Lisa Gregory
31 Oct 2009, 17:36
I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis almost 10 years ago my Rheumatologist also said my blood needed to be monitored on occasion to make sure it did not go higher. He then after about a year moved his practice almost 200 miles from me. I had to find a new doctor who never did xrays or told me anything he just disargreed with my previous Dr and said I have Ostio. My previous Dr was giving me Hydrocodone 3 times a day along with other drugs I can't remember the names of. The new doctor said I sholud go off the Hydrocodone for awhile and prescribed me Flexeril and an anti inflammatory. after a couple of years he had been refusing to restart my pain meds I was miserable. He then moved his office I have a new doctor who is kinder gentler and listens more but he gives me Lodine ans Flexeril. I am in constant pain these drugs DON'T help and when I tell them thay act as though I just want drugs to abuse. I am not like that when told to go off the hydrocodone for AWHILE I did it on my own without a problem I just tapered off. I don't know what to do or how long I can go on suffering this way. I have also been diagnoised with Fibromyalgia. I tried Lyrica but did not help.I see a psychitrist who prescribs cymbalta and also Xanax PRN. If not for him I would have given up by now.I hurt so bad all the time.
Eva Ziem
24 Oct 2009, 12:31
To Patty who wrote on 11 Jun 2009, 10:39

I love your comments! Yes!
Do not sit there like a duck but actively participate. It's your health and your body.

Demand tests and ask for hard copies of them.
Keep in mind that these doctors are humans too and could be tired to not feeling good and can miss a very important info. It happened to me.

My doc ordered a test for calcium and the lab package included the kidney functions. The doc looked (on a computer screen) at the calcium result and did not pay attention to the kidney part.

It turned out months later that he looked at it and we found out that I have a kidney problem. If I have had this piece of paper in my hand I would have noticed the 'out of range' flags.

Another example how docs can miss very important info... I have arthritis in my hands and was concerned if this could be RA and made appointment. My doc faxed her my recent labs (the ones showing my kidney problem). She decided that I have no RA but but she gave an RX for MOBIC for my hands which is a NSAID and people with kidney disease absolutely should NOT take it...
Figure that! If I would have not known that
I would be damaging my kidneys even more...

A moral from this story: Check your labs, check your docs!!! They do not care!

Katina
22 Oct 2009, 21:33
Seronegative RA
You can have RA and no elevation in RA factor in your blood. My factor was negative when I was first diagnosed 2 years ago but my other blood counts were off and you can tell by looking at my hands and feet that it is RA. Heredity is also a common factor. RA is rampant in my family from my mom and dad, so if folks in your family have it it is the likely culprit.
Mila
13 Oct 2009, 16:58
I am only 23 years old, but I have had pain throughout my legs and arms for years. My knees are in a lot of pain especially and now it is traveling to my ankels. No one could ever figure out what was wrong. I was tested for RA recently and it was negative. Could RA be missed in a blood test? Or will it always show on a blood test? I wish I knew what was wrong. My parents are starting to think I am making up the pain because the lab test were fine.. :(
kelly
07 Oct 2009, 13:44
To Sharon:

I hope the Plaquenil is helping. I took it for about 9 years before I moved to Ga. Pain doc here does not use and no funds currently to go to a rheumatologist. It was the best med for Fibromyalgia. Had to "cold turkey" off 12/08 and feel horrible. It might take some time to feel the full potential of the Plaquenil but it is a wonder drug. Don't forget to have your eyes examined every 6 months.
Vicki Sorrells
27 Sep 2009, 20:39
Hey Joe Davall, There is place called Progessive Medical that might can help you in Dunwoody, GA. I work at a lab called Metametrix and we do a lot of Holistic testing for them.

Thank care,
Vicki
julie
07 Sep 2009, 09:24
I had a neg test for RA, but positive for arthritis,inflamation,and bursitis. I have found a cheap drink at walmart 4 cans @ $3.00 called joint juice. I drink one a day preferably in the am and after 2 days the joint pain lessens somewhat what a relief. You see I'm also taking pain meds to control my all over pain;legs,back,shoulder and hip. If it's going to stop me from taking more pain meds than prescribed it works for me.
Hope this will help someone in need.
Sharon
14 Jul 2009, 18:46
I went to a Rheumatologist,and the Doctor said I had advanced rheumatoid arthritis.The doctor said my blood test for that went way off the charts,but he didnt tell me what it was.He put me on Plaquenil 200mg.that I just started a week ago.I am so tired,dont want to eat,and dont want to do a thing.Is there anything I can do or take to help me with this?I am not over weight,and not a senior yet.
Joe Davall
09 Jul 2009, 10:41
I was born with AS, yet I just recently discovered my diagnosis. I am 71.I would like to find a comprehensive management clinic in Middle Georgia. Do you all know of such a place?
Thank you,
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John Garback
08 Jul 2009, 16:30
I'm told that my diagnosis of dermatomyositis is in remission - I'm on a 2-year program (have completed my first year.

Is there any hope for survival for me!

Thank you.
S Wolcott
01 Jul 2009, 15:02
To clarify, my last note was to B Harris only - milk thistle pertains to liver problems, not RA.

People with RA should check out the following websites:

http://members.tripod.com/~charles_W/arthritis.html
http://www.nutritiondata.com/tools/nutrient-search

The first is by a chemist who has studied RA for 40 years and cured himself of it. The second is a government food database which allows you to search for foods high in potassium, or copper, and low in calories, or fat, for instance. How food is prepared makes a huge difference. Foods canned or boiled in fluid and then the fluid discarded lose 50% of the potassium. Charles says fructose can make a copper deficiency worse, so don't depend heavily on fruits to get potassium.

Charles says RA is caused by low potassium and low potassium shuts down copper enzymes to mobilise copper for the immune system -- a permanent potassium deficiency causes a permanent shut down of copper enzymes leading to aneurisms, among other things. Many Americans are low in copper regardless of potassium levels according to a study cited by Charles, but w/o a potassium-wasting disease, the available copper would be utilized differently.

You need to read Charles's 300 page document to do the right thing. He says, for instance, that your kidneys must work and you must not have Wilson's disease to increase your potassium or copper intake, and that you must correct any B-1 deficiency before correcting a potassium deficiency because a B-1 deficiency causes heart disease which is not possible if potassium is also deficient. He says that Vitamin C is some kind of copper agonist and too much in the presence of a copper deficiency can kill you (I think via nonfunctional cuproenzyme lysl oxidase which leads to sudden aneurism). So maybe a multi vitamin is in order. I happen to know that zinc also binds with copper and makes it unabsorbable if eaten at the same time.

There is a study cited by Lowe "Is there a potential therapeutic value of copper and zinc for osteoporosis?" in which post menopausal women were given 1 g calcium, 15 mg zinc, 5 mg copper, and 2.5 mg manganese, and did not suffer bone loss (they gained bone mass 0.5%). Estrogen helps you absorb copper. I had a hair analysis before menopause and had normal copper status, then during menopause a hair analysis showed low copper. Serum copper is variable and thus not indicative of copper status. Charles_W has a whole chapter on copper. Copper is a poison so be well informed. As always, consult your doctor.
S Wolcott
01 Jul 2009, 12:38
To B Harris, you should carefully read the following website and all the linked chapters regarding Rheumatoid arthritis:

http://charles_w.tripod.com/arthritis.html

This man is a chemist, studied RA for 40 years, and has cured himself of it. He says it is a potassium deficiency, and it causes a copper deficiency, which itself causes low dopamine, high blood pressure, osteoporosis, aneurisms, among other things. When you have low potassium, your body thinks you have a potassium wasting disease, like cholera, and it trys to conserve metals by drawing them into tissues. It is iron particles in the joints that cause the joint problems.

Meanwhile, take milk thistle for your liver 600-1200 mg (I would take 1200 mg for a few weeks or months, then drop to 600 mg). Milk thistle has saved people's livers from amanita mushroom poisoning at the 1200 mg dose. While you are on the milk thistle, do nice things for your liver (you will have to research on the web what your liver likes, but Adele Davis once said your liver needs protein to rebuild, even if your colon does not like it). For a few months only (LOW protein is linked to long life so this is NOT a smart lifestyle choice) I would boost my protein intake to help the liver rebuild. Take vitamin E, a good multi vitamin, and whatever else your research tells you might help.
Mary
26 Jun 2009, 14:20
A high "sed rate" means you have arthritis, right? I think 99 is pretty high! How do they tell what kind of arthritis you have? I do not believe the Doctor ordered a RF. It wasn't with my other results which were all normal except for the sed rate.
B Harris
13 Jun 2009, 22:08
Over the past 10 years I have been tested for lupus, MS and many others diseases and was finally diagnosed with RA in May 2008. I started making some great progress in Oct 2008 with the meds: Methoand Avara. But, in May I was pulled off of all meds because of high liver panels. What are others turning to when meds start causing havoc with other organs??
Patty
11 Jun 2009, 10:39
When you go to the Doctor bring someone with you, so you have two sets of ears. Also, write your questions down before hand and ask the Doctor each question during the visit. Remember, you are employing that Doctor. You have the right to ask as many questions and get as much information as you need. Be an advocate for yourself, which is the only way we can understand these diseases and move forward with knowledge and be impowered to help ourselves!
D SPRAGUE
10 Jun 2009, 13:30
i had a bunch of blood test done because of pain in hands and knees and was told that my count for arthritis was 57 and normal was 1 to 13 does any body know what that means?
Loretta J. Reed
01 Jun 2009, 20:18
I have had rheumatoid arthritis for a very long time and the only free clinic in my area is the one that blew me off for 4+ years when I begged them to tell me what was wrong with my hands, now ankles are in so much pain I can hardly walk and shoulder has been frozen for 2 months and x rays show osteoarthritis, I am very weak and have humongous purple bruises all over my body. I became a penniless widow due to husband being undiagnosed cancer after monthly visits to MD for 6+ years.

I have been denied Medicaid twice since husbands death because doctor scribbled on state forms and did not answer half of forms. I need a rheumatoid expert with knowledge of numerous drug allergies and I need some help paying. I am receiving a small VA benefit and I had to appeal widows disability and I have another year wait, I am not old enough for social security. I am always in excruciating pain.

Any suggestions?
Mary Ledvina
07 May 2009, 01:21
I have had a high rhuematoid factor for years and can not see a rhumatologist insurance dosen't pay. Does anyone know of any thing through arthritis foundation of michigan if they can help to see a rhuematologist?
Carrie
28 Apr 2009, 13:38
I had spinal an neck surgery 2000-2005 I was doing great until I hit my head in Feb 2009.I been having serves pain both neck hand sholder in low back,head aches that I don't get at all.before I had the to sugery,now the pain is back.I been to the Dr. they said RA.But most of all I am a high pain,I don't know what to do.
Angela
25 Apr 2009, 07:05
My mom has just been diagnosed with RA. I dont know much about this disease. She has days she can't even move the pain is unbearable . This has been going on for a year sometimes just not so severe. She has been to different doctors and just this week did one do any lab work. When the results came back her rheumatoid factor was 508.3!!! That she had extreme RA. Is this possible? The nurse told her the normal range was 0.4-4.9. No one I've asked can give me an answer. Just thought someone here might could help me.
Susan
18 Apr 2009, 22:18
I have pain in both of my thumbs 24/7...I have been told
I have Osteoarthritis...could the pain in my thumbs be RA ?I've had injections in both thumbs with no relief...is there anything that will help?
Nikki
18 Apr 2009, 04:43
Shouldn't the Anti-CCP antibody be on here as well? I know it's fairly a new test. It's supposed to be a marker for RA.
lina
17 Apr 2009, 23:57
Hi I have Arthritis and some times my pain is so bad in joint all over my body specially in my knees and I have hard time to walk I went to the Dr and I am done with that section already do you people have any new -old remedies /or ideas you can tell me. AND I like to find out is there any support group South San Jan CA let me know.
Thanks for your time to read my add and trying to help me.
janice dean
16 Apr 2009, 21:12
I hurt from day light till dark but I try hard to put up a frontfor my family.I was just diagnoised with RA My upper back along where the bra line would be hurt.Is this common and all the way up to the back of my neck has really been causing sleepless nights. Please help me with an answer
Fred Esposito
16 Apr 2009, 09:50
I am 79yrs.of age and contracted Lyme disease about 20 yrs. ago (classic bull's eye,etc..) Had intermittent bouts of arthritic pain in knees, then period of relative painlessness. Now I am constantly in knee pain, after an arthroscopic operation on my rt knee four yrs. ago, no difference in pain from each knee exists..both knees pain equally! Meloxicam 7.5 MG produces no relief. Any suggestions?
Kath Strickler
14 Apr 2009, 12:08
In response to Kat Strickland, Apr 10: The number '36' was your Erythrocyte sedimentation rate, most commonly called your 'sed rate'. It is a measurement taken for rheumatoid arthritis.
36 is high as my understanding is that they quit measuring at 40.

You definitely should see a Rheumatologist that specializes in rheumatoid arthritis.
KAT STRICKLAND
10 Apr 2009, 19:56
DOC TESTED ME FOR ARTHUR..CALLED ME TODAY SAID YEP NEEDED TO GO A Rheumatoid SPECIALIST...SAID MY TEST SHOWED A HIGH NUMBER...I ASKED THE NURSE WHAT IT WAS SHE SAID 36 ..I ASKED WHAT THE NORM WAS SHE SAID THE RANGE WAS 0-20...I SAID OK MAKE ME A APPT. BUT NOW I AM WONDERING JUST WHAT THAT MEANS AND NOW LOOKING IN TO THINGS SEEMS I NEED TO GET READY WITH LOTS OF ??...BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE 36 MEANS OR WHICH TEST THEY MAY HAVE TAKEN ??I WILL DEFIN BE IN THE KNOW NEXT GO AROUND ..
Candace Bartholomew
07 Apr 2009, 20:36
I have had RA for 7 months and I take methotrexate. I was wondering if there is a support group of some kind either by email or in my town of Merced Ca. Is there a convention of any kind? Thanks Candace
Anne Frankel
03 Apr 2009, 19:36
I have had two doctors diagnos me with RA and two other doctors diagnos me with Osteo-arthritis. All are rhuematoligests. Who should I believe?? I test negatvie for RA but my MRI's show a inflametory condition with the synovial membrane of my finger joints.
Who should I believe????
very confused
Martha Thomopson
31 Mar 2009, 10:27
Thank you for this explanation of the different labs for different diseases.
Vicki Nicholls
30 Mar 2009, 12:16
I also agree with Ann. We (patients) are left to figure out all this medical stuff. When you're in constant pain, even the most intelligent of us have a hard time. Try to do Algebra next time you have the flu...you'll get what I mean.
Vicki Nicholls
30 Mar 2009, 12:13
I have always meant to do a spreadsheet and figure out what they all mean. I know most of them, now. Thank you Arthritis Foundation for this great website!!!
Janice Sutton
30 Mar 2009, 11:18
I would like more information on polymyalgia rheumatica. How long does it last? I was told 1 year, 2 years ------?
Joan Preston
30 Mar 2009, 10:30
Synvial Fluid analysis.

At the suggestion of a Orthopedic Surgeon I
had an mri performed, The tech stated that
the joint was not torn. The Dr. was ready to
perform arthiscopic surgery. We decided to
look into "Regenexx" treatment if I am a
candidate. While taking the steps to get
ready for the regrowth of the cushion we
found out that the proceedure used on me
was a short cut to surgery. He should have
had a blood test first to check for the
cause of the inflamation, and then a draw
from the knee to check for septic bacteria.

We had to go to our PC for the blood test
and she has referred us to a rhuematolist
for the Synvial test. We could not find a
Orthopedic Dr. who used the proper proceedure before operating.
Sarah McMahan
30 Mar 2009, 10:29
I have been diagnosed with polymyalgia rheumatica. This is the first time I have found an explanation of sed rate. Now, if I can just get mine down!
Ruth
30 Mar 2009, 10:28
I agree with Ann - that would be incredibly helpful! I track all my labs in a spreadsheet, and have learned what a lot of them mean, but it's been hit or miss.
Ann
30 Mar 2009, 10:07
What would be helpful is the range of lab test numbers and an explanation of what that means. I.e. what do low, med or high ANA or RF numbers mean? Do they correspond to mild, med or severe RA or no connection? Do those numbers vary during "flares" or have no connection? & etc. do they indicate future outcomes, i.e. # x usually inicates a poorer outcome than #y & etc.

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