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Study Links Sleep Problems to Fibromyalgia

Women older than 45 have the greatest risk increase.

By Jennifer Davis

12/27/11 The exact causes of fibromyalgia remain a mystery, but a new study offers a possible contributing factor: Norwegian researchers found women who have persistent sleep problems are as much as five times more likely to develop fibromyalgia than women without sleep issues.

“Fibromyalgia has been associated with sleep problems in cross-sectional studies. However, no previous studies have investigated whether sleep problems among healthy women increase the risk of future development of fibromyalgia. Our findings are important because they indicate that sleep problems can be an important factor in the development of fibromyalgia,” according to Paul J. Mork, PhD, the study’s principle investigator. “Sleep problems should therefore be taken seriously. Early detection and proper treatment may decrease the risk of fibromyalgia as well as other chronic diseases,” adds Mork, associate professor in the department of Human Movement Science at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology in Trondheim, Norway.

Fibromyalgia, a chronic condition that causes muscle pain and fatigue, among other symptoms, affects about 5 million people – 80 to 90 percent of them women – in the United States, according to the National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases. Insomnia and middle-of-the-night awakenings are common complaints among those with the condition. Still, the link was stronger than researchers expected.

“We were somewhat surprised that the association between sleep problems and risk of fibromyalgia was that strong – more than five-fold increase in risk among middle-aged and older women, even after adjusting our risk estimates for several potential confounding factors that may interfere with sleep like age, exercise, body mass index, psychological well-being and smoking,” Mork says.

For this study, which was recently published online in Arthritis & Rheumatism, researchers identified 12,350 women older than 20 who had no musculoskeletal pain or movement disorders and followed them for 10 years with self-reported questionnaires and physical exams.

After 10 years, 2.6 percent of the study group – 327 women – had developed fibromyalgia. Women older than 45 at the start of the study who said they “always” or “often” had difficulty sleeping were five times more likely within the 10 years to develop fibromyalgia than women in the same age group without sleep problems. Among women aged 20 to 44, those with sleep problems had an almost three-fold risk of developing fibromyalgia compared with those without. Overall, across both age groups, sleep problems more than tripled the risk of developing fibromyalgia.

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Cathy
16 Mar 2012, 17:54
To all of you. This may not work for every one. All i can scream out to, is to ask for the drug (Meloxicam 15mg) you won't regret it !!!!!! It has saved my life. It has NO side effect like all the other drugs. Please just look into it and it's $10 at Wal-Mart for 180 pills @ 15mg Withen 10 minutes of taking, relief comes and your day will change !!!
Carol DL
29 Feb 2012, 14:23
thought it was my allergies, combined with frantically manic depressant household...I DO not have bipolar, but mom, one sis, did and I tend to stress about everything, so also blood pressure, and adopted at late age...autism, ...sld, anger issues...and hubby trying to keep up with us all...diagnosed over 10-15 yrs. ago...but best friend kept telling me that all my little problems sounded like fibro to her (she was diagnozed back then)...pain meds at night along with klonapen and zoldipem give me a few hours of sleep...but ANYTHING happening, light, noise, after a few hours and I am up aching for rest of night...Cymbalta made me nauseaous, and I found myself pouring water on myself just before falling asleep, riding up sidewalks...etc., safe to say NOT a good drug for me...I do natural CALM for restless leg, MSM (from the Ranch store for horses, 1 level tsp. once, twice a day helps...cost for one yr. plus, is less than a month of capsules...we do Omega 3, Niacin, Zinc, B12, EmergenC...and a few others...zogurt is good...too, bananas....headaches and bowel changes are the worse....I can manage the other pain, just lack of sleep and headaches, etc....enough to drive one person in this house nuts...poor hubby....
Janet
16 Feb 2012, 12:48
Hello Ladies -- I, too, suffer from the "slings & arrows" of Fibromyalgia. I was diagnosed in 2006 & didn't find a doctor to help me until 2008. I would like to second Renata's comments on Savella -- one of the newer drugs. It was hard to get my dosage adjusted, but my wonderful rheumatologist gave me the facts & then let me work out the dosage on my own. Fabulous!
And Tiffany Belcher hit the main point: "The only people who know about Fibromyalgia are those who have it." I've become isolated from some people I thought were my friends because they didn't understand in those early days how sick I really was.Just keep talking to your friends & family, & also look for good books that are simple to read. Highlight your symptoms & hand them the book. It worked wonders with both my grandson & my disability attorney. lol
The best book I have is "PARTING THE FOG: THE PERSONAL SIDE OF FIBROMYALGIA/CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME," by Sue Jones. Short chapters, terse descriptions, & a Personal Page at the end of each chapter where you can write in your own experiences. Get This Book!!!
And Bonnie, you are so right! Fibro & CPAP don't mix well with me, either. Now, if I could only convince my doctors of that! :)
Michele
16 Feb 2012, 12:12
I have been a companion of fibro for 15 yrs now and was diagnosed on medical records alone.... Then referred to a Dr. for confirmation. I cried that day. Not because I had a disease that was untreatable, but because FINALLY there was a disease!! ONE disease that covered it all! I wasn't crazy like the other Dr's had made me feel. In my case I have always slept alot yet never REALLY slept at all. Awakened exhausted , even as a child. So maybe parts of this study are valid.

Carol: Have you had a Dr. check you for Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome (yes, jst like Carpal Tunnel, but in the feet), or Plantar Facsiaitis??? The last one affects the Achillies tendon and the heel. i have had both surgeries and know the pain. Sounds exactly like what y9ou are describing. Good Luck
boris
12 Feb 2012, 20:07
Hi, I have 8 years with fibromyalgia.I had trouble sleeping since my teens.I was taking Cymbalta for pain and had to leave because I made ​​a deep depression, having suicidal thoughts, when i left cymbalta, depression left me.For pain is magnified, but the side effects were devastating to me. For sleep with magnificent result, for me, has been the Ashuaganda
Barbara
12 Feb 2012, 17:10
I have had fibro for over 30 yrs. Also osteoarthritis, have had both knees replaced and now have to have my left hip done. Have stenois in my spine at my neck and DDD (degenerative disc disease) in the lower spine. Have had a brain tumor and breast cancer also. I take a host of meds including Lyrica, but started taking Cymbalta and found relief. But I developed a rash outbreak 2 mths later. It looked more like bug bites, but no bugs found after spending close to $1000 on exterminators and getting a new mattress. Has anyone out there every had skin breakouts from Cymbalta. I hate to give it up as it seemed to really help and I lost some weight. I have been off for 2 wks now, and still have a few breakouts, but a lot less then while I was on it. I am going to stay off for another week and then try it again. I would appreciate hearing from anyone this may have happened to.
Dorothy
11 Feb 2012, 13:50
I've been complaining to doctors for years about my chronic insomnia and they never took me seriously or came up with a plan to treat it and now I have fibromyalgia. No many know how horrible this is. How much pain I'm in. How sick I am every day and it's until I die. I'm so angry and so depressed over this knowing that it could have possibly been prevented if when a woman came in and complained about something to her doctor she was actually taken seriously. I almost wish I never read this study.
Cynthia
09 Feb 2012, 13:19
It has been helpful and enlightning to read all the various comments from fellow fibro peers. I developed symptoms following breast cancer surgery, chemo, and radiation. I continued to work as a school counselor which required many long hours and repetitive motion activities (handwriting,computer work, etc) which only increased the pain. I, too, have awakened in the night and had difficulty sleeping enough to the point that I felt sleep deprived towards the end of my career yet many nights could not fall asleep until late. I retired 2 years ago and the pain has lessened but still occurs at times. After enduring chemo effects I did not want to take prescription drugs so relied on naproxen, heat, massage, multi-vitamin, and ginseng. To help me sleep I use a pillow between my legs, a pillow top mattress and best of all a lambswool mattress topper. A cool room helps but I need the weight of lots of warm covers. Now I am able to get more fresh air and exercise through gardening, walking, and Tai Chi which has really helped. I look forward to trying some of the other non prescription strategies.
Marlene Rieder
09 Feb 2012, 11:33
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia 25 years ago at the Mayo clinic in Minnesoda. I was put on amytriptyline which was like a miracle drug. I presently take Citalopram and Trazadone which help the depression and sleep. Fibro causes pain which in turn causes lack of sleep which in turn causes more pain. It is really a vicious cycle because the less quality sleep you get, the more intense the pain is. Right now I also take Ambien if needed for sleep which seems to help me sleep better but is something you would not want to use on a regular basis.
I also have been recently diagnosed with Obstructive Sleep Apnea so have started on a CPAP machine which is absolutely great. I also happen to be a registered nurse and have worked in a sleep lab for the last four years and see a direct pattern with many health problems including fibro with patients that have OSA. The key to using a CPAP mask is getting the right kind of mask to fit the patient. They have come up with newer and lighter masks every year including a small nasal mask that only weigh a few ounces and are very comfortable. Even people that breathe through their mouth have great success with them.
Another thing that has really helped my chronic fatique is taking Vitamin B Complex pills. They contain all the vitamin B's which are what provide energy to the body naturally.
The best method of dealing with fibro is treating the symptoms. It is very much like rhematoid arthritis except it affects the muscles and ligaments. Heat is a very good source of relief. My pain definitely intensifies during cold weather. Even a ceiling fan or air conditioner seems to aggravate it. I plan on trying the Salon Pas strips.
I really appreciate any and all suggestions. I initially felt that my life was never going to improve but I still work full time and have been able to cope fairly well. Every day is different and with God's help, I feel very blessed.
Marsha
08 Feb 2012, 13:09
I have fm,now, for about 5 years. Tramadol and excedrin help a lot. In between, I take excedrin(2). I'm 67 and have RA and use the same pain reliever. There are days when nothing helps. My husband uses norco which helps him...ocassionally I'll take one and get relief, but I don't want to to get hooked on norco as he is.
I, too, wake up at around 3AM for and hour or 2, and play on the computer until my eyes cross, then go back to bed and watch tv till I fall asleep. Nothing!!! helps me sleep except pure exhaustion!!!
Carmen
08 Feb 2012, 10:05
I start having arthritis since I was 46, now I am 58 and I can't said that I sleep a whole night. Everything hurts. I don't have insurance, so I go to a goverment health department and because my husband income is not much they see me for free. I ask the Doctor about a year ago if I can have fibromyalgia and she said no, just like that, but sometimes I wonder....
Donna Capps
08 Feb 2012, 03:40
This is very interesting. I started out with restless legs for several years before I had fibromyalgia. I had a sleep study done after I started having the pain but the cause wasn't yet known. It was the RLS that was causing me to constantly wake up during the night.
Renata
08 Feb 2012, 00:57
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, high blood pressure, and osteoarthritis. I do not sleep well due to the pain, not the fibromyalgia. I do not get much REM sleep unless I sleep most of the following day, which makes my migraines worse. The things I have found that are comforting are heat, a very soft mattress and rest. The BEST medication I have taken for my symptoms has not been mentioned here - SAVELLA. Cymbalta and Lyrica did not work effectively for me. I find that Neurotin helps with the burning pin pricks on my neck. Botoxin injections in my neck, shoulders and head, from my neurologist, helps reduce the frequency and pain level with the migraines.If you don't find a doctor that makes you feel intelligent, find another one. Fibromyalgia is real and there is help out there. I get much more help from my neurologist and rhumetologist than any primary care doctor.
Janice D
07 Feb 2012, 23:32
I also was told by a Dr that REM sleep is required to produce the harmone that repairs dammaged cells. I see many comments about delayed REM that does not begin until about the time we should be getting up. Many pain meds actually prevent the body from entering REM so I was told to take pain meds 2-4 hrs before bedtime.
Janice D
07 Feb 2012, 23:21
Almost all the women I've met with Fibro have had a back/spine injury or chronic back pain and many also had Chemo for breast cancer! I do believe it is caused from damage to the central nervous system-neurapathy is a symptom of nerve damage aswell.When I have gone without sleep or had busy stressful days or exposed to extrem temp I get very sick the only thing that helps in 2-3 days of bed rest. While having an episode noise and having to communicate are torture. It is like my brain is over-stimulated.
mimi
07 Feb 2012, 23:05
i am also a fibro/cfs sufferer with other factors..arthritis, diabetes. thyroid..i can sleep 22 hrs a day and wake up exhausted...i can sleep 4 hours/night and wake the same way.
non-restorative sleep is what i've been told..my rhumetologist prescribed ritalin which helped but had gastro problems with it..adderall was next.. 20 mg 3x daily...not a miracle but close to it..i still get the extreme exhaustion, especially when stressed, however it allows me, for the most part to stay awake during the day and sleep at night..the amazing part of the adderall is what it does for the brain/fibro fog..it has been a true saving grace for me
Dot L
07 Feb 2012, 21:44
I find this interesting, however, I really experienced few sleep problems until after Fibromyalgia. The pain interrupted my sleep, then the Prednisone relieved the pain, but kept me awake. I took sleep medications several times a week just to be able to sleep enough to function when I'm awake. Now I have a difficult time getting to sleep early enough to get up for work. It's like my body is on a 26-hour (or more!)/day clock. It's been almost 8 years since my first syptoms. Today, the pain is managed well with Lyrica, but the sleep problems persist!
Donna Knox
07 Feb 2012, 20:57
I have had Fibromyalgia for 20 yrs. and like Janice, I use Salon Pas strips for the hot spots.I wake up every hr. and the only Rem sleep is the last hr. or two.I used to wake every 3 hrs.but it has gotten worse as I age.I am now 61 and I have Osteoarthritis and Ankalosing Spondilitis,which I have had for 25yrs.As of a yr. ago I am on Hydrocodone for the severe pain in spine and back,and like Janice I was given Tramadol,which didn't help the pain at all.The Hydrocodone helps my spine ,but not the Fibromyalgia.I also have a leaking heart valve and under active Thyroid,and on meds for since 1980 and 1984 respectively.I have Asthma also.Some Drs. have found that woman usually have alot of these but don't really know the connection.I used to always wake up around 3am also and be awake for hrs. I have been using an uncommon remedy to get right back to slleep for the last yr. I have had Hypoglecemia since my teens and now what I do to get back to sleep ,is I eat a sugar cookie!I had read somewhere that if you eat a little something,it will put you back to sleep,but for me it has to be very sweet.Unconventional, but works for me!I have lived with severe pain for over 25 yrs.and it does cause depression sometimes,but as a Christian, prayer helps to make it go away.We should all stick together,since as most of you have said,we know how we feel more than anyone else.God Bless all of us.
Joyce
07 Feb 2012, 19:47
I to have fibromyalgia,which I've had for about 18 yrs. now. It has gotten worse in the last 8 yrs. The stress factor in my life created my problem. My husband died after fighting cancer for 9 yrs. going through that was awful. I also lost my son and grandson in a car crash. This also added to my stress. I have tried all the medicines, like Cymbalta, Lyrica, Effexsor, and nothing helps. I also have diabetes and Lumbar Stenosis which adds to my pain. There are days that are so awful just to try to move. Athritis is also included in my assortment. Cortisone shots help for a little while, but don't last long and my diabetes numbers go up.A full nights sleep is a rarity.
Marge
07 Feb 2012, 19:31
I found the comment made by Fibro Sufferer esp. interesting. I have OA and about two years ago was told by a very understanding rheumatologist that I had fibromyalgia. Often, both during the day and at night, without any apparent reason, I will experience a king of fear/anxiety and thought it could possibly be related to the adrenals. Also, I was amazed to learn that many others experience that waking time of 3 A.M., which actually noticeably began with me when I went through menopause. To the person who wrote she was 54 and postmenopausal, it was my inderstanding that menopause was a prolonged period, as much as ten years, until your body no longer has any estrogen. I am looking into getting away from foods that are not organic and supplementing my diet with vitamins, minerals, enzymes, etc. I strongly believe that what is in the foods we eat have a direct bearing on our physical, mental and emotional well-being. In addition, artificial meds., to me, are not the answer.
Best of luck to all of you!
KImberly
07 Feb 2012, 19:21
CAROL: I have numbness in my arms, hands, legs and feet...and pins and needles in my heels as well. In my experience...my heels cannot be relieved at all. When they are tingling, if I touch them, it is some of the worst pain I have ever had...and Im in pain all the time. I too, have fibromyalgia (my sleep disturbances have been around for years...and the fibro, although I wasn't diagnosed until about 3 years ago has been around since I was a teenager) I also have trauma induced cervical ddd with ridiculopathy, fibro, b12 deficient anemia, plantar fasctitis, arthritis of the hip and knee, as well as lumbar bulging discs...It really kinda stinks that we are sick...but do not look it :( Makes it hard for a doctor to understand, although my doctor is one of the best!!!! OH MUST WE ALL FORGET TO MENTION DEPRESSION???? In my opinion, if you truly have fibro, there is no way in the world you can't be depressed!!!!
Doshia
07 Feb 2012, 19:06
I am 38 and was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia about 10 years ago. So far I have found Halcion for sleep but alot of Doctor's won't prescribe it because they say it is habit forming and it can cause problems with memory. I only take .25 mg, yes .25 mg and get about 4 to 6 hrs sleep. It doesn't make you feel awful in the morning. As for Cymbalta and Lyrica I am too sensitive to them. At first I was told it was all in my head until I had to go to the University of Virginia to get the diagnosis. I havealso got back problems and have had 9 different surgeries in the last 10 years which hasn't helped. Doctor's have also said I was too young. It is awful because I can't stand extreme cold or extreme heat. Hope this helps!
Fibro Sufferer
07 Feb 2012, 18:58
I believe that sleep problems are NOT the cause of Fibromyalgia, but rather, both are symptoms of an underlying problem with adrenal regulation.

The adrenal glands, even in this day & time, have not been studied fully, and they are the least understood part of the human body. Most doctors are only aware of overactive adrenals & underactive adrenals. THIS is THE PRIMARY REASON fibromyalgia is such a mystery and is so misunderstood.

Those of you who awaken at 3 a.m., that's most likely because you are experiencing cortisol spikes in your sleep. One thing I noticed about all fibro sufferers is that most awaken at 3 a.m. I underwent a sleep study in 2008, and I was told that I was having cortisol spikes in my sleep, which was the cause of my inability to get back to sleep after waking up in the wee hours of the morning.

These researchers make such loose connections between certain things, and it only perpetuates misunderstanding of fibro. For many years, fibro was mislabeled as a condition that only neurotic older women suffered. Medical professionals thought this because a vast majority of known fibro sufferers were middle-aged & older women.

HOWEVER, the reason people mistakenly thought fibro was an older woman's condition was simply that
1) it takes SEVERAL YEARS to obtain a fibro diagnosis, after many different things have been ruled out & various treatments have been tried and
2) middle-aged & older women are far more likely to have BETTER HEALTH INSURANCE & be able to go to the doctor.
Simply put, sufferers within this demographic typically have the benefit of more financial security & better health care coverage/insurance, and more time (in terms of having many years behind them in which they have amassed a well-documented medical history that can be reviewed to ascertain a fibro diagnosis).

I have suffered ever since I was a teenager, BUT I was not diagnosed until I was 32 years old. However, I knew I had fibromyalgia many years before my diagnosis; it's just that doctors routinely blew me off & claimed that "only OLDER women have fibromaylgia" -- that is, if they didn't altogether dismiss fibro as "bunk."

Be VERY careful how much credence you give to research results. Researchers should spend far, far more time TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUFFERED FOR YEARS ON END, and they should pay very close attention to our input/feedback. Only we can explain how we feel, when we feel it, what our triggers are, etc.

Until medical researchers figure out that they should be focusing on the role that our adrenal glands play in fibromyalgia and they finally develop a treatment that addresses this underlying problem, all we can do is continue to cope and cycle through all the short-term fixes for symptom flares.
janice christy
07 Feb 2012, 17:43
I have had Fibro for 18 years. A few things help: Cymbalta. I couldn't take Lyrica at all. I also use Salon Pas pain strips when I get those especially "hot" spots. Haven't slept all night in years. Usually wake up at 3:00, stay up for a while and go back to bed. The later sleep is the only time I get RIM sleep. I take Tramadol too. My arthritis pain is getting worse too as I age (62) of course. When I got off of artificial sweetners I got amazing results very quickly. That lasted for 2 years, but recent allergies have required I take Guaifenisen, which sets off Fibro everytime. It's a viscious cyle, but try to hang in there, find what works for YOUR pain, and choose to have the very best life you can. I also have my mother (87) living with us who has Dimentia, and my daughter, who lives about a mile away, is ill with her own issues. It's ok.
Barb H
07 Feb 2012, 15:41
Steffany Belcher - you hit the nail on the head! I didn't have problems with sleep until well after the fibromyalgia diagnosis, which was about 12 years ago. I self-diagnosed myself with the fibro after seeing an article in the Sunday paper - the doctor I was seeing felt a script was the answer to everything. The diagnosis has been confirmed by a rheumatologist however. The brain fog is the worst part for me. Yes I hurt and I tire easily, but not thinking clearly scares me, especially after watching my mother-in-law succumb to Alzheimers. For now I get by with Cymbalta and Tylenol, hot showers, massage therapy and my bicycle, weather permitting.
Alice G
07 Feb 2012, 15:38
I'm not saying the studies are wrong, but...could it be that the PAIN is what's keeping us awake? Hmmmmm..
Joan
07 Feb 2012, 14:32
I was diagnosed almost 8 yrs ago with fibro. I have had all the symptoms for a long time and dr. after dr. told me I was overweight and lazy. Finally went to a great rheumatoligist and she helped as much as she could. Our insurance wouldn't pay for the Lyrica or Cymbolta. So we tried everything else. She sent me to a Pain Management Dr. He was a quack, but found one on my own and she is great. I am now on Methadone 3 times a day (5 mg) and it helps. It doesn't fix everything but I get through the day. I have recently been diagnosed with RSD and now getting ready to go see another dr. I have been diagnosed with TOS (Thoracic Outlet Syndrome) Great now something else. I can't work because I never know how I am going to feel in the morning. I hurt some days so bad that I feel like death would be the answer. I do see a therapist every 2 weeks to help with these thoughts. It is not an easy life and I still can not believe that Drs. are not taking it seriously. Talk to people who are in this position. It is real. Didn't mean to get on a high horse about drs. but some of them are idiots. I two have lost weight and no difference in the pain. Pain is there and you need to find a dr. that listens.
cheryl hase
07 Feb 2012, 14:21
ive had sleep; apnea for about 10 years and artrhritis for about 20 i keep having pain in my feet and acteually all over most of the time i dont sleep well who would I go to to see if I have fibro my sister seems to think that is what i have as she has had it for a long time more than 30 years
Lulu
07 Feb 2012, 13:58
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia over 30 years ago and have had spinal surgery but still have problems with my hio and knee. I am managing fairly well with Prozac, Neurontin and Tramadol. I also take Glucosamine Chondroitin and high dose Calcium and Vitamin D. These were all recommended by my Rheumatologist and they seem to keep things under good control.
Harriett
07 Feb 2012, 12:47
Relieved to know that I'm not imagining pains. I have sleep problems related to pains.Fibromyalgia not a joke-just trying to deal with it.
Cathy Turner
07 Feb 2012, 12:15
I had sleep apnea as long as I can remember, and I'm 54 years old. But sleep apnea wasn't something that many were aware of. And as a toddler, I still remember the same dream that came with waking up, paralized, and unable to breathe. Because I already spent most of my young years in the hospital, with asthma, I wasn't going to tell my mom. As a young 3 year old, I learned that if I told God "don't let me dream that dream", then I never dreamed "that dream" on that night. So I tried and tried to remember, but forgot many times. But I would remember. after an eposode, for a while after. In late 1980s, I mentioned to a dr. and he said "I will always wake up". After an auto accid., and internal injuries, FM became alive. Now I know I was in the beginning stages, but was taking very good care of myself. The accid. was 2001, and raising teens, and trying to be a help to my sister who was caring for our parents who weren't doing well. The accident pushed things over the top. I now have full blown FM, CFS,RLS, and some periph. nueropathy. I know without a doubt these things were coming, but with diet, supplements and much sleep, I held them at bay. But after having two children, and much on my plate, I felt this coming back again, yet I didn't know what "it" was. And the Apnea started again. The accident almost TOOK my life, and many times I wish it did, but now I realize it probably KEPT my life, because these things were discovered. Now, along with those issues, Chronic Pain is my companion. The sad part is, I found I only have a few REAL frends, and can count them on 1/2 a hand. My children lost the mother they knew, (brain injury), and our marriage has been tested). Because it is an invisible disability, we are shocked at those who have turned their back. But when we mention to try to turn things around, no one wants to a'talk'. Rumors have surrounded us, and much talk therapy is needed. And there are one or two who really understand, and that is because they really saw what I went through, or grieve for what has been lost. After sinking into a deep depression, someone pulled me out with love and words of comfort. I glad I can say, that after "reliving" the decades of my life (via brain injury), I am my age. But I'm wondering why were (and are) others still scared to be around me, and why are stories believed that aren't even close to the "me". And where is the outrage of those close to me, of going through the treatment I have, and believing it's something I deserved. To hear others tell of their family surrounding them with love, and helping the recoop. (and I can see they have recooped well), brings tears or sobs of thankfullness for them, and grief that I didn't get what I needed, and now, the dr.s are trying to get me help for all the isolation. I MUST lay out a hand to those in my shoes, because I can't let anyone go through what I went through. I don't go anywhere without my APNEA machine. I love it, and the dr has staff that works to fine the most comfortable kind. Mine has just the two holes that go over your nose, and that's all. When it comes uncomforable, then back to the dr to be refitted or fixed. If you hate your machine, then it's possible it doesn't fit you, or it's not set up for you correctly (the air flow amount). Keep going back, or for some it appears a doctor change might help, and ask for help until you are comfortable. This is what our clinic says, and they are the most kindest and have much loyaty to the dr and their patients. I beg you to try, to keep your sleep nice and quiet, as you will not believe how much better you can feel and think. Depending on how bad you are - it can possibly give you your life back. For those like me, I can be more active at times, when all body parts are in agreement! lol A certified Neuro (or close) that has many hours in Sleep Apnea is what you want to look for. Do they attend the conferences on sleep studies. Do they know or have they read the studies that Dr. Jerald H Simmons has written, from Houston, near the Medical Center? Or gone to his workshops in the southern areas? Are they going to one the end of Feb. or in March? It's okay to make sure your dr. is knowledgeable, or sleep apnea can cause strokes, heart problems, and many issues YOU don't want. This is a very complex issue, and searching out a dr that is very knowleable is very important. There is much information, when searching Comprehensive Sleep, and conferences regarding Sleep Apnea in 2012, should bring some very good reports that can help you. Don't suffer when you don't have too, there is already enough you've done! I hope I haven't over stepped the boundaries made for this organization, but trying to get the word out of good research being done by a doctor that has found relief for many patients. Painfully yours.
Sally
07 Feb 2012, 12:05
I was diagnosed about 20 years ago, I don't tell people I have it because it seems like a lot of doctors that are lazy just tells every woman that comes in with a complaint that they have Fibro. I love cymbalta it does help with the pain a little but keeps me from being depressed, lyrica helped but the weight gain caused me such depression I stopped. I do take flexeril for sleep but I do not sleep throught the night I come home from work and nap 1 hour then go to the gym. I take zumba and spin and if I work hard enough the endorphins give me a high where I am almost pain free for a little while and I'll take a little while any day. I force myself to exercize I hurt but I refuse to let this disease control my life! I also have Vasculitis and arthritis in hips knees and shoulders but I just keep moving. if there was some way to combat the fibro fog I would be so happy the longer you have fibro the worse the fog gets. hang tough everyone and don't let the fibro dictate your life.
dobbie
07 Feb 2012, 11:59
Sarah - try stretching your shoulders, arms and legs muscles - make a routine of it like when get up in mornings stretch those arm and shoulder muscles before getting up and then as often as you can during the day - i find this helps me tremendously.

For anyone with neck and head aches/pain (not migrains) try excedrin tension headache asprin free - from the top of my shoulders to the top of my head, this helps within 5 to 10 min. - for a small headache i take one and for more severe i take two pills.

Being diabetic and fibro, i can sympathize with you and wish you help.
BJ
07 Feb 2012, 11:55
Diagnosed with Fibto 3 years ago. Not able to take the Meds suggested for it. Referred to an MD Accupucturist and have been amazed at the relief of the pain and again able to sleep. I'm down to once a month now for main-taining and it is 90% better. Do have
short flare-ups but so much better.
dobbie
07 Feb 2012, 11:39
Carol - i have high blood sugar, not diabetic, but borderline -i have pins and needles all over my body sometimes and it is caused from the high blood sugar - perhaps you can get a blood test and see - also i have fibromyalgia and have had it for 20 years - the pain comes and goes - i have found if i keep my calves and feet warm it helps with the pain.

Hope this helps.
Monica
07 Feb 2012, 11:29
I am 37 was told about 3 yrs ago I had fibermyalga, also have head to toe rheumatoid arthritis diabetic high cholesterol carpal tunnel have had knee reconstructed migraines and at on point 19 pinched nerves in my spine. there are day i don't want to get out of bed, but have 2 kids 8 and 10. adopted can't have kids of my one because i also have poly-cystic ovarian syndrome. Help my pain go away.
janice
07 Feb 2012, 11:26
I am taking Cybalta and thought it was not doing much until I gave out. The symptoms of fibro got so much worse. It is also good for the depression at first but after taking away the depression returns. But is good for pain. I still don't sleep very well due to arthritis that hurts after laying still for awhile.
Terrie
07 Feb 2012, 11:05
To Sarah. Sadly despite the information that has come to the surface and the studies that have been done concerning Fibromyalgia there are still doctors who do not want to accept that Fibromyalgia is a legitimate disease. Why I do not know. I went to a pain clinic once that was recommended by my Rheumatologist and the doctor there wanted to recommend me to a Physiatrist implying it was all in my head. Don't give up. Keep searching until you find a doctor who has taken the time to educate him or herself on this very legitimate and painful disease and God bless.
Terrie
07 Feb 2012, 10:57
I was diagnosed about eight years ago with Fibromyalgia. The truth is my sleep problems began about the same time I started noticing the Fibromyalgia pain. Even though the doctors I've had have tried me on various different medications for sleep, getting a good night's sleep is a major battle. No one has ever mentioned to me that they needed to check my thyroid. I would be interested in learning more about this.
Faye
07 Feb 2012, 10:55
When I list fibromyalgia on a form in the doctors office, they just completely ignore it. Because I also have hypothyroidism, they like to try to blame that for my fibro symptoms. And now that I am getting to be a certain age, I'm sure they'll try to start blaming menopause for everything, although I've been dealing with fibromyalgia sense before most people had even hear of it (about 20 years now)
One strange finding, I began a diet using HCG drops for a while last year. During the course of the diet, some of my symptoms went away. Especially the pain. I lost about 30 pounds. After I stopped the drops, the symptoms and pain did return, but not for a few months. However, the exhaustion was worse while on the diet, probably due to the low calorie intake. I don't know if that diet is for everyone, but I found that for me, the benefits were great.
Jan
07 Feb 2012, 10:40
I have fibormyalgia for many years along with rhmetoid arthritis. My doctor put me on muscle relaxers and it has help a lot. Also I thought I had restless leg syndrome but it also was just the fibormyalgia. I don't know about the sleep problem, but I do not sleep ever though a night so it may have something to do with it. Good luck!
Lacefix
07 Feb 2012, 10:39
I have had all the above symptoms. Women, get your thyroid checked first. I was found to have allow thyroid. Now on a low dose of meds. My hair is not falling out as bad, I can sleep through the nite, my skin looks better and my nails seem stronger. I am 54 and postmenapausal. Thyroid problems seem to go unnoticed.
Sara riddle
07 Feb 2012, 10:26
I have had fibromyalgia for 10 yrs or more and can't find anything that helps the pain. I also have sleep problems, osteoarthritis, chronic bursitis and restless leg syndrome. I have taken prolo therapy shots,cortisone shots and up to 300 mg of lyrica a day and nothing helps. Any ideas?????
sarah
07 Feb 2012, 10:11
i know i have it . but my doctors wont admit it. they say i have parkinson. i dont believe i have that. i shake when my muscles tighten up in my shoulders so bad. i cant hardly move them. all down my arm. it didnt show up in my brain i have parkinson. my left leg does the same thing. in my back. some day's i am ok. but when it comes on me it is terrible.
Steffany Belcher
07 Feb 2012, 10:01
Carol: I have had burning feet & pins and needles in my feet a great deal. I find that it is worse in the summer. This is clearly a side effect of Fibromyalgia & others have it too.......I use ice packs or soak my feet in cold water which help some. I don't think there is much we can do about it but yes, you could check with a neurologist but I am not sure it would help............Sorry! But if it helps, you are not alone.
Steffany Belcher
07 Feb 2012, 09:55
It is so frustrating to read this article in your e-mail and how wrong it is. Arthritis Today should know better! Sleep problems are one of the symptoms that are a part of having Fibromyalgia. As you know each patient is different and has slightly different symptoms. But, it is clear that brain chemistry plus tight & painful muscles = poor sleep & even for those who sleep - lack of deep sleep. I never had a sleep problem until I had Fibromyalgia (diagnosed when I was in my 30's) & then only understood I was not getting deep sleep because I was exhausted all the time. The only people who know about Fibromyalgia are those who have it - the researchers and the doctors are rather ignorant about it I have found. The good doctors know they are ignorant and let their patients guide their care. If you want to print good material on Fibromyalgia - ask patients or go to one of the Fibromyalgia organizations (ex: Fibromyalgia Network). Thanks! Steffany Belcher, Tenants Harbor, Maine
gayle glick
07 Feb 2012, 09:34
I was diagnosed with Fibromyagia in my early 30"s. No sleep problems until about 7 years ago. I do not have sleep apnea (been tested 2x). I also have arthritis in facets of spine and shoulders. This is what causes sleep disruptions for me.... PAIN.
Bonnie Johnstone
23 Jan 2012, 14:38
I was never tired but snored so had a sleep study done about 3 years ago which showed moderate sleep apnea. I found that I did not sleep well with the machine. My health was becoming chronically worse and I had a small breakdown that began a domino effect of health issues resulting in a diagnosis of atypical migraines, photophobia, fibromyalgia. Long story short...with Fibromyalgia...and it's nervous sleep...I can't wear the CPAP gear and sleep at all!!! I am able to sleep and be rested without it. Since I do not work (fully disabled) if I ever need a nap (rarely happens) I can take one. CPAP and Fibromyalgia is like claustrophobia! Loke a pillow over your face!
Chocoholiclady
21 Jan 2012, 08:58
I have fibromyagia and recently had a sleep study done. Will getting my new cpap machine for sleep apnea Monday. I wonder if this will make a difference in the fibro! It certainly can't but help with many other problems such as the chronic fatigue, sleep deprivation (goes without saying), headaches, and brain fog. I'll definitely being sharing this article!
Linda
12 Jan 2012, 15:26
Shirley, congratulations on losing weight - that will give you many health benefits. Unfortunately, as far as I know, fibromyalgia isn't one of the conditions that respond to weight loss. Try getting as comfortable as you can... wrap up in a soft quilt to rest, exercise gently in a warm pool if possible, and generally be kind to yourself. Fibromyalgia makes a person more sensitive to other pain, as well as having its own tender or achy areas. Ask your doctor about muscle relaxants (Baclofen or Flexeril) and pain relievers like Tramadol (Ultram) to see if they may be prescribed for you. If your doctor isn't understanding and helpful, keep trying to find one who is - that helps a lot. Also see if your local hospital or Arthritis Foundation office offers support groups for fibromyalgia. I wish you well!
Elizabeth
10 Jan 2012, 20:08
Hi I suggest you see a nuerologist burning comes from inflammation and a nuerologist can do an EMG test which will determine if you have an inflmmation such as neuropathy or radiculopthy not sure on the last spelling anyway find yourself a good neurologist who will determine your cause of pain and will help you.
Carol
10 Jan 2012, 13:20
Why do i get burning feet at times in bed and pins and kneedles feeling in my heels, when i put something on my heels it does calm down. Thank you.
shirley collins
03 Jan 2012, 19:40
Thank you, for the imformation about fibromyalgia and sleep problems. I lose 43 pounds in six month and the pain is not better. my pain got worse can you help me with it?

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