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Fed Cuts Rates for Pre-existing Condition Insurance Plan

Government urges sick people excluded from private insurance to enroll in program, announcing up to 40 percent rate cuts in some states and easier eligibility.

By Tammy Worth

6/2/11 The Obama administration announced this week that the federally run insurance plan for people with pre-existing conditions will be less expensive and easier to qualify for, beginning July 1.

The Pre-existing Condition Insurance Plan, or PCIP, provides insurance coverage to people in the private market who have been denied insurance due to conditions including rheumatoid arthritis, obesity, coronary artery disease and lupus. PCIP launched in January as part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. It serves as a bridge to 2014, when the new health exchanges open in each state, and offer insurance options for everyone, without discrimination based on health status.

Arthritis Foundation President and CEO John H. Klippel, MD, joined Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, or HHS, for the announcement on May 31. Dr. Klippel expressed strong support. “These changes will offer more Americans with pre-existing conditions an option to access the care they need without the discrimination that has occurred against those who have debilitating, expensive diseases like rheumatoid arthritis, which currently affects nearly 2 million Americans,” he said.

Making PCIP plans more affordable and lowering the application requirements may increase enrollment, which has been relatively low. About 18,000 people have joined the program, which was expected to cover approximately 350,000 participants through 2014. Some states, specifically Hawaii, Maine, North Dakota and West Virginia, have fewer than 30 people enrolled.

Sebelius said HHS will increase outreach for the program through various measures, such as working with insurers when an application is denied.

The new eligibility rules, however, may mean fewer people with pre-existing conditions will be denied by private insurers. Previously, an applicant had to a provide letter of denial from an insurance carrier to qualify for PCIP. Now, all that is required is a note from a doctor, physician’s assistant or nurse practitioner confirming a pre-existing illness.

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Krista
19 Dec 2011, 11:44
The Obama care plan is a great step toward a problem that has needed work for a long time. My husband had to get a new job due to a layoff and the new insurance and their only insurer UnitedHealthcare had a pre-existing condition exclusion. I had to go through months of frustartion and had to prove I had no gap between insurances. The paperwork was unbelievaeable but I did it. The pre-existing condition plan is a great one. When you need a plan, you now have another option. Also Charles Enbrel has its own copay assistance plan. You can also receive copay assistance through the following foundation upon applying and meeting income guidelines. I get help from all these places..Chronic Disease Fund, (CDF) Patient Advocate Foundation (PAF). Also others I have used in the past Healthwell Foundation, Patient Access Network Foundation. Try them. They all help with Enbrel.
ddsugarbear
07 Jun 2011, 18:33
This msg is for Charles. Charles, I too, am on Enbrel and have been for 4 yrs. I have no health insurance at at all, but I have severe RA. I get my medication funded through THE ENCOURAGE FOUNDATION. Google it and I am sure that they will be able to help you. Please feel free to contact me at my email address at ddsugarbear@yahoo.com if you need further help. Unfortunately though, I get no other help with the meds that I need. My disabililty finally did go thru last Dec but now I have no medical insurance and have to pay cash for my dr appts and the rest of my meds because Medicare doesn't kick in for 2 years. I suffer every day. the Enbrel doesn't help me as far as energy or pain like the commercials say, but I take it with Methotrexate (which makes me really really sick) every week for 2 days that I take it. Contact the Encourage foundation to see if they can help you. good luck
charles
07 Jun 2011, 12:04
I have been on Enbrel for years now and have had to go to the VA for treatment. Guess what my precription ran out and I can't get any of those *** to refill it? Can you get any more government than the VA? It's been 6 weeks since I have had an injection and I don't expect to get it filled so I suffer and they go on.
Becky
06 Jun 2011, 10:43
Well.... I have R.A. for about 6 years now, and am taking Humira, MTX and prednisone for it. As you all probably know, Humira and the other biologics are *very* expensive. The co-pays are $368, twice a month, as I am taking the Humira every 10 days instead of 14, because I am in that bad of shape. *However*, with the medications, I am able to work. *However*, I haven't had a job for the past 2 1/2 years, after being laid off.
I have tried to get help with medical care (my premiums are $274 per month, and will be going up when I hit 45 yrs old) but I would have had to be without medical insurance for 6 months (?), which is not an option for me.
I am suspecting that more people are not signing up for this ObamaCare plan because they do not have the money to pay any premiums and are just hoping that they do not get sick or injured.
M.H.
06 Jun 2011, 10:02
Tom i do agree with you on that i know if we did not do our job we would be fired,the problem is our goverment is so divided and so disrespectful of each other no matter who gets in there it will all be the same,i really don't think they care about the people anymore,you think they ever have to worry about there health care,they get to go to the finest hospitals and the best doctors in the world,I do believe that we the people need to stand up and say HELL NO we won't take it any more parden my lauguage,I have good insurance but still can't afford to go to the doctor I am on 6 different meds.and the co pay is not very good,I bet our politicians don't have co pays.
tom Gantzler
05 Jun 2011, 14:15
M.H. I disagree with your comment about not being a simple way to handle health insurance costs. There is. We need to advise our congressional representatives that things need to change and if they don't or won't get things moving, we vote them out of office and put someone in that will. This will take a concerted effort on everyone's part to get it to work. We have voted these representatives into office only to have them change their campaign promises to where they do not benefit us but themselves. We have all seen in the past when something needs to be done it gets done. A good example is 9/11. The things that the people need should not be taking a back seat to political rhetoric. They should be in there to help us or get out. It's time to make the representatives responsible to us or flush them out. Once we get enough in there and start doing what the others should have done, things will start changing and politicians will learn that they are there to serve the people.
M.H.
04 Jun 2011, 09:47
Do you really think it makes a difference which party is in charge,the fact is we need something done about our health insurance it is so out of control,I wish that every body out there that blames Obama or blames Bush would run for President and see how hard it is, there is no simple answer to this problem I don't know how much longer we can afford our health insurance my husband works very long hours just to pay mine, which i know in two years will take a very big jump when i turn 55 I see all them BIG buildings are insurance companies have and i know where all are money goes,I just pray that some day they will have a answer,maybe even a cure for R.A.This is nice to be able to talk about some stuff on here,I can't talk to my husband about my R.A. he just gets mad and yells about what it is costing HIM.
Kay in KC
03 Jun 2011, 22:30
I have read a lot of mean-spirited, ignorant postings below this article. Stop blaming the welfare queens of your fantasies, or President Obama, for your problems. The problem is the money raked off for insurance company overhead. They contribute nothing to patient care. If they are allowed to continue to exist at all they must be not-for-profit, regulated public utilities. Don't you right-wingers see that when you complain about co-payments, waiting periods, Rx exclusions and so on, you are admitting that we need to simply provide EVIDENCE-BASED (sorry, chiropractors) medical care for all sick Americans, and collect the taxes FROM EVERYONE in order to pay for it. We also must not have any more deficit-financed goodies like Medicare Part D.

As long the current system continues we will have:
1. Optimistic younger people not bothering to buy health coverage, even if they could afford it.
2. Some of these optimists getting expensive diseases and injuries that have to be treated; however they stiff the bill.
3. Cost-shifting onto those who have insurance, which usually means their employers. (Most group coverage is self-insurance which means the insurance company just shuffles papers for the employer. The insurance company incurs no underwriting risk.)
4. Accelerating off-shoring of American jobs, because ONLY IN AMERICA does access to medical ever come from one's employer.
5. Ever increasing difficulty for middle-aged people to find or keep a job with benefits, because nobody in their right mind wants to be responsible for the medical care of someone in the cancer and heart disease prone years.

You need to set your bigotry aside, spit out the tea, and recognize your real enemy!
Jerry Schablein
03 Jun 2011, 19:55
I'd rather suffer with the current mrds I'm taking then give a dime to the Big Brother Communist Plan proposed by the idiot in the White House and his band of socialists
Harri Williams
03 Jun 2011, 19:42
How do you get THIS socialized program. Our carpet kneeling president is destroying this country as fast as he can. When it is destroyed, he can blame this on Bush too.
I can not find any agent selling this new health program.
Deej
03 Jun 2011, 19:32
First, I want to thank the Arthritis Foundation for all they have done over the years to fight for improved care for those suffering from arthritis.

Instead of fighting one another over health care, the democrats and republicans should start working together to improve the health care system in the U.S. Many of the citizens in our country haven't been able to obtain affordable health care. One of my good friends was given a death sentence by his insurance company seven years ago, when his carrier refused to approve a kidney transplant that could have saved his life. His doctor recommended the transplant, but the insurance company refused to approve the transplant. Now, after seven years on dialysis, my friend is slowly dying and has become too sick to risk a transplant.

We should be grateful for those who are fighting to ensure that decent health care is available to everyone, not just those that can afford it.
Phyllis
03 Jun 2011, 16:39
First, blaming the previous admin is *&^%! If we had listen to W. it wouldn't have been so bad. But! If we had elected McCain we would have been on the road to true health care reform. As a retired multi-line insurance agent I know what I am talking about.
All that aside...I suffer from O.A. in all my joints and vertabrea and I also have ITP, Immune Thrombocytopena Purpura, a rare disorder of the autoimmune and hematological systems, this causes my body to destroy the platelets in my blood causing me to spontaneously hemmorahage and capillaries to rupture and bleed into the skin causing small purple bruises and even larger ones if I'm really injured.
I am on a high risk policy w/UHC-GR at a premmium of over $830 a month w/$3500.00 copay and no RX coverage...I haven't been able to work for the past 10 years and no SSD because my medical records that could link the OA to ruptured discs has been destroyed by the doctor and hospital that first diagnosed. Seems that after 7 years doctors and hospitals do that. And, about two years after you loose your job SS disability insurance coverage stops! Didn't know either.
My husband's job was terminated because it wasn't politically correct for Mars MasterFoods, Inc. to have a corporate jet for their newly acquired pet food division. He's hasn't worked in over 3 years and the the savings, Roth and 401K are running out.
Life is (*^%$ for all of us. And, cuts have to be made. But, to throw the chronically ill and severely sick under the bus to save Medicare and SS for those under 55 and those who haven't been born, much less old enough to work and pull their own weight is insane!
And, yes. Obamacare does have a 'death panel" , it's called IPAB. Some of you clearly have been brain washed by the Left Wing fractions and main stream media.
G.L. Neri Monroe
03 Jun 2011, 15:23
DOES THIS POLICY include Insurance for Long Term Care in a person's home instead of placing the person into a Nursing Home ?
dobbie
03 Jun 2011, 15:14
I have insurance through my employer; however, beginning of May he changed the policy. No co-pay and a $3,000 deductible and then a max of $2,000 more before BCBS picks up the tab. This means I pay the full tab for doctor office visits, blood work and anything else I need. I have high blood sugar, bad cholestrol and an infection of the rib cage. My doctor wants me to have blood work done every 3-4 months, but they want $600 for that. My insurance plan will cover the meds, but nothing else until I have paid the $5,000 deductible. My monthly insurance prem is $900 per month. Now after 20 years of paying into BCBS and using approximately $400 per year, I get nothing in return. I am 60, not quite old enough for medicare, which I will then have to pay a monthly prem for that. This new plan means no more annual check-up.

I believe if the government wants to help, then they should cut out deductibles. Why should we pay a monthly prem and a deductible on top of that.

When I retire, there probably will be no SS and if there is, it will not be enough to
help, and by then, the Medicare prem will be too high to pay. I have a family history of heart problems.

Doomed in South Carolina.


Mona M. Wilson
03 Jun 2011, 15:02
I was approved for SSD approximately two years after my last physical date of employment. My attorney refused to appeal for the back time because he said there is no telling what kind of judge or who I would get, they might throw the case out entirely and you would have to start all over again. My main concern was not having medical insurance or being able to apply for Medicaid/Medicare for an additional two year: this is truly a travasty. The private government quotes I got would not allow me to live in my house, eat, sleep as I have. This is so ridiculous I just don't know what else to say except that I have worked my entire life for 31 years since my senior year and I can't get help unless I have at least about 4 children based on the current income. DUH......what's the point, my tax dollars from all those years have taken care of so many lazy, baby-having women to stay in the system who gets everything paid for and I can't get $2 worth of food stamps, TNAF, medical, etc.
Tracy
03 Jun 2011, 14:28
I, too, had to deal with no insurance for 1 year before my Mdeicare kicked in. It took three years and an attorney to get disability even though I had a six inch thick file. The judge refused to go back to the day I couldn't work anymore. So, my disability checks started coming and I still had to wait another eight months for Medicare. Private insurance was costing me 1800 per month plus all copays, etc. I chose to drop my medical because it was twice my house payment. Guess what, since they (SSDI) drug their feet and their judge thinking we are all out for money for nothing, I am now permanently disabled and much worse had I gotten some aid. Now my neck is fused, my back and now I need surgeries. Thanks to the gov't for nothing. It's our money and they treat you like you are robbing them!!!!!!This insurance is a scam by the insurance companies. The gov't needs to make all for profit healthcare illegal like other countries. This type of greed will send insurance giants to hell, making big bucks off the backs of very sick individuals.
Ginny
03 Jun 2011, 13:31
Please screen out the political comments. They are inflammatory and divisive, serving no useful purpose. Factual comments based on personal experience or research can be helpful, so stick to that type of message.
Char
03 Jun 2011, 12:08
Sounds like many of you see the glass half empty. And many of you have very short memories. You all probably loved W.Bush. Well guess who put us in this mess to begin with? Yeah. W. Had he gotten what he wanted Social Security as we know it would have been no more and the health insurance companies whould have totally had their way with us. Obama's Health Care Reform Act would have looked like a piece of cake. So stop blaming Obama for ruining your world. Obama is just mopping up after W. cra--ed all over us running thru a multi-billon dollar surplus that Clinton gave us. Then W. Bush blew thru that and put us into a multi-trillion dollar deficit while bringing us to the brink of another Great Depression. Remember???

No,the Health Care Reform Act doesn't have it 100% right. What in life is 100% right? But it's a step in the right direction. I bet a lot of you believe they were going to "pull the plug on granny." Lies from the Tea Party and Republicans. Please folks, stop drinking the Kool Aide and think for your selves.

Enough of the politics. I know folks are in pain. Physically and financially. We as a society are at the whim of pharmaceutical and health insurance corporations. We are also what we eat and drink. It's our decision to put into our mouths what we do. It's our decision to be couch potatoes. I take full credit for the RA I have had for the last three years. I had a pity party for myself for about the first 6 mos. of the onset. Then decided that I was only adding to my pain and suffering.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm upsetting the majority of you who read the above political comments. So be it. I read yours. Let's get over it. We are all Americans. We all love our country.

For those on Humira, as I, I've recently, since turning 65,have had to pay more per month since I'm now on Medicare and my employer's health care coverage, I'm retired,MANDATORY at 60 yrs., became my secondary coverage. Thankfully the Humira Protection Plan covers $500/month. A friend of mine has been on Remicade for about 5 yrs. and said she doesn't pay a thing. I looked into it and here's the scoop.

Remicade is administered at the doctor's office as an IV or intravenous infusion in your arm. Because of that, it's considered a doctor's procedure (my term) and Medicare covers 80% of the cost. I'm lucky with my secondary health insurance, that it covers 20%.

I hope the above information regarding Remicade vs Humira may help someone out there reduce their cost.

Ursolina Good
03 Jun 2011, 11:55
Anyone who is on Medicare part A and B can apply for Elderplan. I am 88 years old and have been on it for years. I don't pay anything for my doctor, pay only $3.00 for my meds, generic of course and $15 for specialists. The premiuns they take out of our S.S.CHECKS for Medicare goes to Elderplan.I live in NY.I don't know if other states has Elderplan but you can find out. I hOPE this info helps you all.

Ursolina
B.P.
03 Jun 2011, 11:17
I agree with S.T. It is nearly impossible to make ends meet if you are middle class and still are trying to work. I have RA and spend more money on my insurance premiums than on my house payment.
Denise
03 Jun 2011, 11:17
I have OA and I lost about ten pounds. I don't like any of the medications out there for Arthritis so I just take acetaminophen. It is tough to avoid some of the foods out there, so I strive for moderation and keeping my weight at a healthy level. I am fortunate enough to be on my husband's health plan, it helps when you don't need to subscribe to two health plans to keep healthy.
Harriet O'Neil
03 Jun 2011, 11:10
I have acute RA, diagnosed 18 years ago. I've tried just all treatments except infusions (due to the cost)without success. I was covered under my husbands insurance (BC/BS Anthem) until a couple of months ago when my disability was approved. The insurance company stated they would only cover me as the secondary insurance (paying only 20%) and Medicare would have to be my primary. After checking into the Medicare it didn't take long to see it doesn't cover as much and is more expensive than my husbands insurance. My question is how do I go about finding the best coverage (that's affordable) with the Medicare Part D to cover prescriptions? If anyone is knowledgeable on this I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
Pete Ward
03 Jun 2011, 10:40
The Artritis Today news release about this insurance program is made to sound like a big deal that you have entered into with the government.
Every comment I see above from people that have RA, etc. say that the program has been a farce in their experience. Why don't you try to fix the problems instead of joining with the govetnment and trying to tell us how great you and HHS are?
Sylvia Reid
03 Jun 2011, 10:12
This so called insurance is for the birds.
First of all I live on a fixed tight income which our illustrious President seems to think we don't need any raises to our checks.
I guess he thinks we are all fools not to see the high gas prices and higher food prices. This doesn't count the cost of medications, and Doctor's visits. Who has the high cost for this so-called insurance?
Certainly not disabled Citizens nor Seniors who barely have an income. We do not have
the Presidents income, nor that of Senators, nor of Congressmen we live on barely next to nothing. The President couldn't make us any poorer than he has already. I ask you in good faith Where will my $470.00 for insurance in the State of Georgia come from
when I only get $770.00 per month on my Disability check....and sure I qualify for
this insurance because I have Systemic Lupus
and haven't had insurance since my divorce in over 10 years. But Who will pay this premium for me? Will you President O'bama
pay this premium for us? This would be the only way I could afford this type of Insurance. What kind of President are you?
I say the Robber of the Poor, Sick and Needy.
This is my heartfelt opinion of this matter.
ELIZABETH K POLIMENI
03 Jun 2011, 09:20
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH. I HAVE RA FOR ABOUT 10 YRS. I WAS GOING TO THE DR'S IN NJ. BUT SINCE THEN I HAD MOVED TO DAYTON, OHIO. I WAS GOING TO A RA SPECIALIST HERE. BUT I CAN'T AFFORD OUT OF POCKET MONEY TO PAY THE BILLS.I WAS ON HURMIA PEN BUT THE DR HERE STOPPED IT. I AM ON MEDICARE. BUT THE DR'S CHARGE TO MUCH TO PEOPLE ON MEDICARE. I AM NOT ON MY HUSBAND'S INS. BECAUSE THE COMPANY CHARGES TOO MUCH FOR THE FAMILY PLAN. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A DR AGAIN, BECAUSE MY RA IS DIDN'T WORST. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME ELIZABETH POLIMENI
Mary Hoheisel
03 Jun 2011, 09:19
This is crazy i can not afford to go off my insurance for six months yet i can't afford to stay on it,if i go off my insurance and do not make it on this insurance i can not get back on my old insurance, i am on five different meds. that i must take every day,so i guess i am stuck between a rock and a hard place,this Insurance does not help me at all.
S.T.
03 Jun 2011, 09:09
I currently have coverage through my employer. They just switched to a really high deductible which applies to everything even prescriptions. They are even considering dropping the plan completely because of high premiums and being considered a small group. I was diagnosed with RA almost 11 years ago and have been on meds since. I work fulltime and remain somewhat active even with my RA and other conditions I have. I reviewed the links for this pre existing condition insurance plan, all of them. In the state of Ohio, it is not mandated or ran by the federal government. One of the requirements is you must have NOT had insurance for at least six months. Clearly, lawmakers and others who set the guidelines do not realize what could happen to a person who requires maintenance medications during a six month period without insurance. From experience I can tell you, if I am late on any of my meds for RA...even within a couple of days it makes a huge difference. I can barely function and move. Six months of no insurance would mean Dr appts and medications desperately needed would not be obtainable.

Healthcare reform...and help for those with pre existing medical conditions, please. What about not having to pay such high premiums as well as high deductibles and high copays. What's the alternative for those with debilitating, life altering diseases...no dr. visits, no medical care, no prescriptions = just sit back and allow the permanent damage to one's body progress at a rapid pace, to the point of permanent and total disability. Then we apply for social security/disability benefits that are nearly impossible to get approved for(if still available)let alone live on. Politicians......all of them...need to wake up. Fix the programs where they need to be fixed!! It's about time they take care of those who are considered middle class...and yet struggling to survive.
Tami Keen
03 Jun 2011, 08:50
What about other pre existing conditions that my husband & I have both been on maintenance medications for over 10 years now without complications; hypertension, cholesterol & type 2 diabetes? According to your article these are not on your alert lists.
I am 51 & my husband 59. He has all 3 & I have just the hypertension. He has lost 35 lbs. over the last year that his doctor has considered taking him off some of the medications.

Tami Keen, Tampa, FL

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