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FDA Adds New Anti-TNF Infection Warnings

Two types of bacteria pose infection risks for those taking the biologics.

By Andrea Kane

9/8/11 The U.S. Food and Drug Administration, or FDA, is warning that people who take tumor necrosis factor-alpha blockers, also known as anti-TNFs or TNF-blockers, may be at risk of infection from the bacteria Legionella and Listeria.

After reviewing cases of infection in patients treated with the drugs, the FDA is strengthening the drugs’ boxed warning labels to include the two bacteria.

Anti-TNFs, a type of biologic product, are used to treat rheumatoid arthritis, or RA, ankylosing spondylitis, psoriatic arthritis, juvenile arthritis and several other conditions.  The new warnings will be added to labels for infliximab (Remicade), etanercept (Enbrel), adalimumab (Humira), certolizumab pegol (Cimzia), and golimumab (Simponi).

Serious infections – from bacteria, fungi, viruses, mycobacteria (including tuberculosis) and other opportunistic pathogens – are a known risk of anti-TNFs, which can compromise the immune system’s ability to fight infections. Patients older than 65 and those taking other immunosuppressive drugs may be at greater risk of infection.

The added warning may help patients with these infections get treatment more quickly, according to the FDA. In the past, healthcare professionals weren’t always aware of the risk of certain infections, leading to delayed treatment. 

“Any product we use to treat rheumatoid arthritis, because it affects the immune system, always has the potential for infection,” says David Pisetsky, MD, PhD, chief of the division of rheumatology, allergy and clinical immunology at Duke University Medical Center. “The difference is there are now two other organisms that we have to be concerned about. So, if a patient gets sick, you add into your thinking, ‘Could it be Legionella or Listeria?’

Jeffrey Curtis, MD, director of the Arthritis Clinical Intervention Program at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, agrees. “All the FDA has done is called out two specific infections among all the other ones that physicians have been thinking about,” he says.

“The take-home message for patients is that they should not have new concerns or worries about the safety of these medications,” says Dr. Curtis, who is also an associate professor of medicine at UAB and a former Arthritis Foundation-funded researcher.

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R. Musgrove
04 May 2012, 07:07
Moved to Tennessee in 2007 @ age 58 from Alaska and had no health issues whatsoever. I developed serious allergies almost immediatly. I believe my body immune system failed after 3 years of substained allergy issues. I developed RA @ age 60 and my RA doctor but me 20 mg of methotrexate and 15 mg of prednisone to stop the serious inflammation as nearly every joint from my neck, wrist, ankles and knees were infected. After 7 weeks he slowly reduced the methotrexate to to down to 6 pills (2.5 mg) and prednisone down to 1 pill (5mg). I tried Enbrel for 5 months and had no effect. The RA is beginning to grow worst @ age 63. I am going to try removing meat, fats and wheat from my diet to see if I improve.
Cia
28 Oct 2011, 14:42
If you go to the top of this page and look all the way to your left you will see a little box that says find local programs and services and its by zip code.See if there are any classes because they have very good information that you can use and they have places you can go and support groups you may want to take part in.There is nothing so comforting as sitting in a room full of people that know exactly how you feel.
Cia
28 Oct 2011, 14:12
I have fibromyalgia with the fog.Some times I miss a word or I cant remember something I should.Also type one diabetes (4 to 5 injections a day)and everything sets my sugars in one direction or the other,they call it fragile.I have RA,colitis that never want me to forget its there and neurophy.I take lopressor to slow down my heart beat. Otherwise I have a 120 beats a minute.I am only 54 and for years before I would exercise and walk on soft track and the pain would go away.I am now in so much pain and exercise makes it worse.I went to pain management classes with kaiser and learned so much.Attitude is key for me.I am going to hurt for the rest of my life but I can be thankful right now that I can find other ways to help myself.I use my tens unit for an hour at a time where it hurts most that day and I can not feel the pain while it is on and I am relaxed,I get in the jacuzzi when I am hurting all over or soak in a hot tub.I am learning to breath deeply more ofter deep in my stomach to open the lower lobs of my lungs and get more oxygen,and stretch.I walk in a pool to keep my joints from the pain of walking on solid ground.I do many things to keep from taking medication for as long as I can.It does not take it all away but it helps me to figure out what helps and what doesn't.There is so much out there that I haven't even heard of that science does not understand yet but other cultures have been doing for years and I am going to try it all and I will find out more natural ways.There are two people with the same disease but one can not work and hardly walks the other hold a job and plays with her grand kids.There is a reason for that and I am going to find out what it is.I hope all of you will try to join me in some small way.My hope for you is that you find a pain management class as good as mine.I saw people in my class that said now they can sit on the floor with her grand kids because now she can get herself back up.She had not done that in 5 years,she does her physical therapy lessons at home every day.when she first came to class that was her only goal.Now she has many goal she is setting for herself.
Ruth
23 Sep 2011, 18:03
Hi my name is Rurh. I was diaognoasted with RA in 1980, since then I have taken my meds that no longer work. I still take alot of prenesone a day along w/ other meds including Enbrel, as the gentlemen stated in a previou reply I am experienceing memory loss and fog of the brain (as I call it). I can honestly say i have a great Dr. that I've been seeing for years. Good luck to all an keep our chins up, cheerful thoughts to all.
DEB
21 Sep 2011, 09:04
Hello,

Wishing everyone a a pain free hour today. It is very hard to find some meds that will work. Sometimes even harder to find a MD that will listen to you. After many drugs now taking Enbrel a most of the time it helps the RA. Most health care workers do not feel that FM is real, they feel that you are only looking to get a fix , so very sad that you must deal with this on top of the pain & weakness. And also hard to work in the health care field with people that I love , but refuse to see that some conditions are real no matter what they think.
Paula Sorber
20 Sep 2011, 18:45
I have been taking Enbrel since last November for RA, After about four months, my pain and stiffness improved a lot. A few months ago, I started to notice that I can't think clearly and can't remember things including how to do things that I have done for years. What was easy is now so hard.It seems like I am losing it, but no one seems to be able to find anything wrong. I have decided to stop taking Enbrel because
i think that is the problem. Has anyone else had this kind of problem? Was it the Enbrel? What can I do about it? My psychiatrist is going to consult with my rheumatologist. I am so scared that something is wrong with my brain or that I have some sort of dementia.
Abby
17 Sep 2011, 17:29
I am 49 years old and was diagnosed with R.A. almost 19 years ago, i have also developed post pulmonary fibrosis, I have been on many, many drugs including Methotrexate which caused fibrosis in my lungs,Humira,Enbrel, and am currently on Arava,Plaqunill,Meloxicam,Hydrocodone,and the newest one added to mine is Actemra. I have had the basal joint on my hand removed, two knees replaced, all within 4 years.The meds do lower the ability to fight infections and I have had pneumonia many many times and have had one lung collapse and been hospitalized many times.My meds do not seem to be slowing this awful disease down, and at times think that I will not go through another surgery to replace one more joint. I can sympathize with everyone as i can understand the pain and total loss of worth feeling. I was the sole supported for my family when my husband became disabled I worked three jobs to save our home for my family and now i am also disabled. Life sometimes seems so unfair that you want to just stop and I myself have thought the pain would push me to this. The side effects of the meds are almost as bad as the RA its self. I would welcome any and all ideas to help with the pain, any tricks that help with it as I am out of ideas.
patty
17 Sep 2011, 11:04
I use Humara and many other ra drugs. Just wanted to let you all know that Humara has a program where they will help cover the cost of the drug for a year.
Christie H.
14 Sep 2011, 23:14
Wow nice 2 know so many hav concrns & comments...1st to Eaustin with your support & faith your daughter will be ok ; I too was diagnosed w/ RA at an early age of 10 my parents were my anchor(also let her hav an active roll in deciding on her meds)...Sharon Rajack thank you for givin me relief in knowin that i will hav longevity in years i was concerned i am 34 and hav had RA 24 yrs i am on methotrexate, predisone (as needed), vit.D, & watevr otc i can get wen n pain ...maxine johnson, paula,sheila lov ur comments & suggestions i need to find out what natural ways i cn get bettr, tammi and nurse robin you guys make me want to ask dr.2moro for enbrel or humira ( oh but i am self pay) and they are too exp...d clark and vicki streez glad to know others who have had it a whileand are surving sometime whew! i just want to have a huge pity party but hey life goes on No Big Deal right.oh joann can i get surgery to remov the deformities in th joints on my hands and feet????
Anna
14 Sep 2011, 14:49
I am 51 and was diagnosed with RA at the age of 40. I dealt with the pain and flareups the first 2-3 years, until I finally found a reumatologist that would prescribe Humira. Humira has worked for me from day One. My reumatologist calls me the "Poster" girl for Humira in fact. I've been on it for a good 8 years and have had no complications whatsoever. I'm not invinsible, I have had my share of flareups here and there, but very rarely. I actually felt like kissing the ground my doctor walked on after trying "Humira" I guess it doesn't work for everyone but it certainly does for me. Thank you to Humira!
Teresa D'Angelo
14 Sep 2011, 10:24
Diagnosed with RA in 2005, I had been on and off Humira, which stopped working. My diagnosos then turned into psoriatic arthritis and I tried Embrel, which didn't work at all, and now Cimzia. My doctor has added Methotrexate to the Cimzia.

I also tried the natural therapy route and went to an MD who did allergy testing. I was allergic to wheat and dairy. Well, that sums up most of the food I eat! I have been off wheat (eating gluten-free which some cheating here and there) and I have to say my symptoms had not been as painful nor as frequent. In addition, I lost 15 lbs with no effort.

I would love a combination of a rheumatologist who treats with medication AND vitamins, diet, etc. I'm not one to take medication and I'm concerned to read that many medications stop working after awhile, then it's on to a different or stronger one. It seems on one knows the answer.

When I can move, I teach and take Nia (www.nianow.com) classes, which is a wonderful healing dance that has helped me move and stay centered. I know tai chi is fantastic as well. When I can't walk due to inflammation (which is right now) I put on music and move my upper body.

So, has anyone found a combo of meds and natural practices that has helped?
Diane
14 Sep 2011, 10:05
Research Gluten-Free diet.
Pain and stiffness improved 75% for me.
No Rx meds x 1 year.
debbie
14 Sep 2011, 05:53
Hi, I have DJD and who knows what else...all I know is after sitting or laying...I have to wait a bit b4 I walk, cuz I cant move. When My dr 1st diag. this was a little over 2yrs ago...had it longer, but... anyway, she gave me Diclofenec. It was pretty good, but then after a bout with pneumonia and a week in the hospital, the dr told me"no more diclofenec" really bad for my acid reflux. "sigh" so I ask my dr for something for the pain...I got darvacet...but 1pill doesnt work, so have to take 2..then that med got a recall..now she has me on Tramadol...candy...all I can say...it does nothing...I need something that is going to give me at least a 5 to 10 min pain relief window...I hate pain meds, wont take cholesterol meds..(they killed my husband). But I need something...I TRY to stay away from sweets cept my cappuccino. I did see an infussable med once a month but, cant remember the name...I also have 3 disc in my lower spine that r extremely painful..I know this causes the pain in my legs. Arthritis in my hands from 6yrs of baton twirling...broke my left foot off back in 02 so had to have several surgeries...now it is almost fused with arthritis. any suggestions out there...I am already susceptible to everything any way...sooo, something else wont seem much. Prednisone makes me feel great...but, no one will put me on it for long term..I told my dr there r side effects with everything, pred works...she still wont give it to me...mayb I should get a referral to another dr.
uggg! Bio freeze works good sometimes...but the smell, well I get that old people look...lol!
Thanks!
Debbie
Kate
13 Sep 2011, 12:38
Regarding the questions about Orencia ... any DMARD, whether a TNF inhibitor or not, suppresses your immune system. So regardless of whether this specific warning applies, the general warning does. This includes non-biologics such as MTX.
Kate
13 Sep 2011, 12:34
First histoplasmosis, now Lingionella (which I'll admit I've never heard of) and Listeria. This kind of crap holds the FDA back from doing its real job. TNF inhibitors are scary dangerous, fine. So is prednisone. But you know what? Waking up in so much pain you wish you'd never woken up sucks. So does reaching for the phone and realizing you can't because your elbow is locked in the flexed position - now THAT is scary! It's called risk vs. benefit. Patients on TNF blockers, selective B-cell inhibitors, etc., should accept the risk and move on, or don't take the drugs. We don't need the manufacturer to spell out every single specie of bacteria or fungus that might hurt us. Gee, I got a staph infection when I was on Enbrel - maybe they ought to list that, just in case I manage to forget I'm sick next time I'm stabbing a needle into my thigh! Give me a break. RA patients, the key is learning about your disease and your treatment, not suing the manufacturer when you get an infection. ... And if the Arthritis Foundation supported this move, maybe you should reconsider your priorities: patient education goes a heck of a lot further than paying lobbyists.
ksbraz
13 Sep 2011, 11:02
Paula,
Please don't do anything to harm yourself. It sounds like there are people in your life who love you very much and would be devastated without you. You are a person of worth and you still have lots to give to and receive from the world. Having as many illnesses as you do probably predisposes you to some depression - I know this is something I struggle with from time to time. Instead of harming yourself, I encourage you to seek out help and perhaps a medication (I know, one more pill :-) that will help you see through this fog. You'd be surprised at how much it can help! Try to take each day one day at a time. Talk to your family about your feelings. I will be praying for you, Paula.
Paula
12 Sep 2011, 22:03
I was finally diagnosed with Rheumatoid and Osteo Arthritis about 1986. I've had multiple surgeries and so many drugs I can't name them all. My daily and/or monthly prescription list now is about 10 to 12 items. Along with the Artrhitis x 2, I have hypertension, pulmonenary artereal hypertension, Sjogrens syndrome, interstitial lung disease, sleep
apnea and probasbly some things I've forgotten. I must sleep with a C-Pap and I have oxygen 24/7.
I am now 67, I have already outlived my entire immediate family including my baby sister who was three years younger than myself. I just tried to hibernate through the first anniversary of her death on September 10. I feel sorry for all the families in New York City and from the Pentagon but I have a whole lot of pity for myself right now.
At 67 and every bone, joint, nerve, and muscle in my body aches, burns and stiffens up to the point that I can barely move. I have worked through a lot of stuff but I am willing to tell you that I don't really care how much longer this is going to last. Tomorrow would be a good day to let it all go. The few things I would have trouble leaving in this world are my husband Allen, my niece Becky and her beautiful children. I just hope if I decide to do something considered stupid, they will forgive me.
Believe me when I say it does not get any easier when you get older. Do what you can to survive and trust that my heart goes out to you all.
maxine johnson
12 Sep 2011, 11:59
I have RA in my hands and fingers for eight years. My ankle
started about a year ago. I could not walk for six months with out a stick. Now i am close to jumping rope. This is what
i did after refusing many of the RA drug, alkaline water , white grape juice, sour cherry juice and stopped eating foods
that caused my flaw-ups like sugars, salt, fried foods and pork. Good luck
aida mercad
12 Sep 2011, 00:04


I have Lupus ,Ostheoartritis, Osteoporosis level 3.9,artritis, IBS and Fibromalgia

I know how painful are all this condition togheter; to all and each one you blessing .
Eaustin
11 Sep 2011, 21:45
First of all, I appreciate all your honest comments. I can completely relate to most of you. My little 12 year old daughter has been suffering with polyarticular arthritis for over 1 year. She is on Humeria 40mcg every other week. This year she has gotten worse, in school she has has to use the wheelchair due to her pain. I take her every week to a manuel therapist to help with her pain. Her rheumatologist is wanting to add mthx to her meds. I am so worried about her, but I just want her to have the best quality of life right now.
Carol Robinson
11 Sep 2011, 21:10
I have fibro, osteo and ra. I was diagnosed with ra about 8 years ago. I was started on Enbrel and methotrexate right away, plus Vioxx, of all things. After the vioxx scare I went on celebrex. I decided on my own to go off the celebrex. I then went on Mobic. The Enbrel stopped working and now I am on Humira for about two years. I still take 4 methotrexates once per week and mobic, one at night. Here lately I have been waking up pretty stiff in my hands and ankles and at times my shoulders hurt. I have an appt with my rheumy in October. I am hoping he will know how to help with my recent stiffness. Otherwise I do ok, have no bad joints, etc. I do get very scared of the side affects and of getting some kind of horrible disease. Now I can worry about a couple more!! :0) We are going on a cruise next year and I have heard all kinds of horror stories about getting sick on cruises. Has anyone else gotten sick on a cruise?
Allyson
11 Sep 2011, 09:44
I was diagnosed with RA & anklylitis spondilosis 3 months ago. I am on Prednisone &
Vitamin D OTC & perscription. I take Naproxen
daily & was given Vicodin @ the ER on this past Labor Day because I woke up & couldn't walk. I'm constantly falling & the Prednisone makes me hyper,even though it's only 15mg.Does anyone
else experience falling. The Rheumotologist wants to increase the Prednisone. Any advise?
Also,how can you get people to understand? I have good days & then there's bad days.
I just had my first injection of Humira at $1500 an injection but my MD wrote to Abbot Labs Foundation,& thankfully my Humira is covered. I have not noticed a difference yet.
christine
10 Sep 2011, 20:27
sorry forgot to mention I have RA. Oh and the only side affect i have had is dizziness
christine
10 Sep 2011, 20:23
I have been on Humira for 5 years with awesome results, along with low dose pednisone for a flare up. It has recently started to lose its power over pain but I continue to take it to protect my joints. I have a rheumy appt in 3 days and will see about another med, even another biologic. I am aware of the side affects but it does not consume me. I trust my doctor and I know my body. Humira has given me back my life in a nutshell. I know its a gamble but I hope others arent scared to try biologics. $o years old diagnosed at 32. Was on methotrexate, plaquinal, pain med..... nothing helped like Humira
Pat Kennedy
10 Sep 2011, 20:14
Thanks to all of you because I was on Humira for a series of three shots. I was so sick after the third shot I could hardly stand. When the rheumatologist asked how I made out with it he started shaking his head "No" when I had three words out of my mouth. He wanted me to try it again - I said "No way will I do that"

I found another rheumatologist because that was the third time the first one gave me incorrect information and guidence. I was sure I knew when I was sick!! Apparently he didn't think I could figure that out. So, I appreciate the above information.
Joan
10 Sep 2011, 16:16
To Dana Cruea: I have RA,Sjogrens Syndrome, Fybromyalgia, Raynauds, and Mixed Connective Tissue Disease. None of them are fun! At times, my pain has been totally unbearable; yet I have always tried to push through it. Sometimes this is not the smart way to go. I have tried Enbrel, Orencia, Remicade, and Methotrexate. The only one that really was helpful for a long time was the Remicade; Then I developed horrendous hives and breathing problems during one infusion. They had to stop it immedately and give me extra benadryl to help me with the reactions. Fortunately, it helped my breathing problem and finally the hives. My rheumetologist is excellent and he tries very hard to stay up to date on new meds. He started me on Rituxan and Cytoxan. It means a long day of getting the infusions; however it does help me. I get a second infusion two weeks later of only the Rituxan. It doean't resolve all my problems; yet it does make me feel better. I must tell you that the long days of the infusions coupled with the type of drugs they are just wipes me out. My husband picks me up and we go home for me to take a nap. I get up for dinner and then back to bed to just chill. The next day I do my best to stay in bed a little longer and just be good to myself. For me, these drugs are helpful. The side effects do scare me; however not taking them can make my day to day life miserable. I have had the top two joints in my right thumb fused and it has resolved most of that pain. Fortunately, I'm left handed; however my forefinger and thumb on my left hand cause me a lot of pain, too. I won't fuse those joints and am trying to have my suregeon at least replace one joint in my forefinger. He will probably do that one. I understand your fears with the meds and will tell you that sometimes you might need to 'take a leap of faith' and try something. If you trust your doctor and have done your own researchon the meds, the rest is in your hands. Do what you think is right.
Sheila
10 Sep 2011, 11:21
I was diagnosed with RA when I was 43 years
old.I am 57 years old now I take Enbrel, methotrexate,plaquenil,calcium,folic acid and
vitamin D. I do have joint deformity knuckles with my hands also I have had surgery on both feet, it went very well for me . I was in a great deal of pain,especially in the morning.On a few occasions I have taken steroid shots to ease the pain. I now do water aerobics at the local Y ,I will say this was one of the best I could have done for myself beside my physician .I have more energy, flexibility and no pain.I still take my meds and I'm sure they help also but the water I beleve was the big change for me, it has changed my quality of life. I have not had a steroid shot in 3 years.I've been doing the water classes about that long.
phyllis
09 Sep 2011, 21:20
I am on remicade and methotrexate for 2 yrs. I also take folic acid , vitamin, and calcium. I do hurt when I play on hard courts, tennis or pickleball. I have had one knee replacement and it still aches like the other knee I do water arobics which really helps,also biking does not hurt the knees.
Jan
09 Sep 2011, 17:39
I have RA, severe osteoporosis w/many fractures & fibromyalgia. I have run the gamut of medications for years. Enbrel was a miracle drug for me for over 10 years, then it stopped working. I tried Humira but it didn't work. Now I've been on Rituxin for over 6 months, but I don't feel as good as I did on Enbrel. I tried Forteo for a month and got deathly ill. I have had many odd symptoms over the years and finally chalked it up to the autoimmune response. I would rather take my chances with the drugs than just letting the diseases run rampant. Has anyone also developed diabetes like I did while on any of these drugs? Best of luck to all of you who are suffering - I'm right there w/you!
Val DNeel
09 Sep 2011, 17:20
To those who have listed concerns about costs, there are programs to help on these medications. Ask your provider or look on their website. It can be lowered to about $10 a month on Humira, Enbrel, Symponi, etc. I had to fill out something, have a card, and call in. It was easy and saved me a lot, even with insurance.
Wendy White
09 Sep 2011, 13:03
I have Crohn's Disease,Osteoarthritis of the spine & Fibromyalgia.I had Remicade treatments at first it worked.three years later it stopped working.Then it was Cimzia which didn't work at all.Now,I'm on Humira,I've had rashes,severe dizzy spells & sudden hot flashes that soak my hair & chest with sweat.It is not helping the pain throughout my body.What should I do?
claire
09 Sep 2011, 12:57
im 30 years old im now on humira and due for second injec soon im so scared incase i get ill but im in so much pain i need it wot shell i do
Mike morgan
09 Sep 2011, 12:19
I was told humerus would be great way to stop the stop
the progress of my ANkolosis spondilitous
iwas told of the side affects and got a 2nd opinion
was told to try it for 3 months so I did I started getting a
really bad rash right away and I went to a regular docotor and told him I was on humerus but he said
that wouldn't cause the rash I had so I contours to
take it for the 3 months and it got worse
I finnaly stopped the humeria and it has taken over a year and I think it might finnaly be gone
the doctors still are not sure if it was the humeria
but there is no way I will take it again
I am 62
Chuck
09 Sep 2011, 11:59
I have ankylosing spondylitis ( for 30 years)
I began Enbrel in 1999. It was a miracle drug. I had been on medical leave from work for 6 months and getting in and our of a car was very difficult.With Enbrel, I went back to work and getting in and out of a car was no problem. The Enbrel worked for about ten years and then became ineffective. I began to take Humira and all was well. Still is so far. I have good insurance or could not afford the Humira. It cost about $1800 a month. I hope the price come down for others.
Janet D
09 Sep 2011, 11:20
I was diagnosed with JRA at the age of 3. I am now 50. Over the years I have tried every treatment available; from naproxen, plaquenil, high does of predisone to Gold shots. I have been taking Remicade for over 10 years now and it's the only thing that has really worked for me. Included in my regimen is methotrexate, folic acid, vitamin D and a small dose of Zoloft (this helps with depression associated with the disease). I get a flu shot every year and am very conscious about washing my hands and staying away from people who are sick. Over the years I have had shingles and several sinus infections. I have had 3 hip replacements, 3 knee surgeries and wrist surgery. I think my best asset is my positive attitude. Every day I see people who are much worse off then I am. It is also imperative that you have a great support system. I have a wonderful rheumatologist and family practitioner. I also have a very supportive husband and family along with a sister of which I could not live without. She is truly my sounding board whither I'm up or down. Don't get me wrong; I have plenty of down days. My doctors monitor my health closely and I can call or email them anytime with questions. I feel they truly take "care" of me and not just "treat" me.
Glenda Blackwood
09 Sep 2011, 11:14
Does this affect Orencia?
Stacie
09 Sep 2011, 11:00
I used Enbrel starting around 2001 and had a large rheumatoid nodule on my elbow that disappeared soon after. At one point, I tried Humira, but once I started it, I started having serious flares in my hands and went back to Enbrel. After a while it lost effectivenes.

I think the key may be that just like everyone's disease process is different even in two people with the same disease, like RA, the response to treatment is likely to vary as well.

I have been on Orencia for almost a year and I have had the best results from any treatment I have ever had. No fluid, on any joints. Just have to deal with the resulting OA.

The best weapon is to be an informed patient and assertive when you need to get what you need. If you doctor won't listen to you, you may want to try someone else, if you have someone else in your area, or reasonably close if you have to go out of town (I used to drive 2 hours to Houston), to get the help you need.
Cathy A. Bollmann
09 Sep 2011, 10:48
I was on Embrel for 7 years. Now I'm on Humira for the past 2 years. This past summer I couldn't stand the Heat I would turn into a puddle. My Home I kept at 69 degrees and froze out my family. Could this be from these drugs????
The Dr. took blood tests and all was good there.
Thanks
Marianna
09 Sep 2011, 10:46
i was diagnosed with RA early part of 2008.i went through all of the routine tests.i was started on humira and methotrexate.for a couple of months,everything was ok,then my skin became very dry and itchy,ears and jawbone started hurting(almost like lockjaw)at the same time,my skin broke out in rashes,red.then it turned into boils.almost staff like infection,all over my body.then, i had flu like symptoms,could not get rid of it,for over 3 months. i was seen by many docotrs.nothing was working.and yes, i did have my tb tests taken.negative.then i saw a dermotologist,said it fungus like bacteria and prescribed the ointment and prescription cream.Then that did not help,i went to a cancer/dermotologist specialist/i had bumps all over my tummy and back and arms.then did a skin graft test/said i didnt have scabies!i said i didnt know thats what they were looking for.thier final conclusion was i ONLY had dry skin!and gave me a prescription for severe itching.i wasted only 300.00 that day!it was out of network,so i had to pay all costs upfront.so, i went to my pain dr. suggested i stop using bath soaps and bath washes,anything that contained perfmue in them.he advised that i use phisoderm only.and vaseline.and this combo helped a lot.Needless to say, i will NEVER use humira or methotrexate again. these drs are being paid by the pharmacetucial company to get the patients to use these biologics.Now, i am still suffering the consequences of these drugs.Now, i just try to LIVE with the PAIN!
Maureen Ryan
09 Sep 2011, 10:15
I have taken mtx injection also enbrel now on humira got a lot of infections from them all. At the moment i have a fungal infection. Do not think these injections are safe , I got every side effect that anyone could get. but what do you do when your in so much pain and can not walk even. Just do not know any more what to do.
Norm Klevens
09 Sep 2011, 09:21
I was given a first [and last] infusion of Remicade, albeit I received a half dose and two weeks later a rash appeared and spread all over. The rash is lessening after 4 days plus yesterday the Dr gave me a shot of Cortisone as the other result was that every part of my body with arthritis [as well as hemorrhoids] as well as healing knee from MCL surgery were more painful than ever. The rash seems to lessen at night with rest, then appear in the morning. I am waiting for blood work results. For the two weeks, relief from Arthritis and Crones was magnificent. Wondering after reading this article if the correct blood tests, [blood taken yesterday] are being conducted.
Peg
09 Sep 2011, 08:54
To Marg and Kay,
My friend who does not have diagnosed arthritis but has had severe dizziness and treatments for such was finally suggested it was meniere's disease. It was suggested she severely limit her intake of salt/sodium. Although difficult, as even vitamins can have sodium in them, it has made a huge difference in her life. Maybe it can in yours too.
To Joni,
I am so sorry for your rheumatologist saying you just have to live with the pain. That seems counter to what all the doctors who write for Arthritis Today say to us readers in their monthly articles. If possible, seek help from a different rheumatologist to see if there might yet be relief.

I have had RA since 1995 and been taking enbrel since 2004. Recently I notice what may be some breakdown in its effectiveness.
I appreciated reading everyone's comments, we just never know when our shared comment may help another!
Pam
09 Sep 2011, 07:58
I have taken several biologics over the years, with Remicade being the most effective. However, all lost their effectiveness over time.

I then started Rituxin and became very ill with a liver virus; it was thought by several doctors that most likely my lowered immune system allowed this virus to become problematic. Needless to say, I no longer take Rituxin and would have to be in extreme pain to even consider another biologic.

To those who have a pleural effusion: Mine was drained, no big deal and no problems since.
Denise M
09 Sep 2011, 07:32
I have been on Cimzia for one year. I have had no side effects but my doctor educated me on what to look out for.
Kay
09 Sep 2011, 07:29
To Marg, I have RA and also have a hearing problem, due to an Autoimmune Inner Ear Disorder. The issues with my ear mimicked Meniere's disease (including severe dizziness and subsequent vomiting.. would take me out for several hours). Soon after the ear problems started I was put on Methotrexate and then Enbrel, and all dizzy spells went away, however, about 1 1/2 years ago I lost over 50% hearing in my ear.... heard a noise in my ear and then my hearing was gone within a minute and never came back. Several times I was put on steroids to get the hearing straightened out and it worked, but this last time it did not. I recently started using a hearing aid. Scared to death to go off the meds for fear of the dizzy spells coming back.
My understanding is people like me with autoimmune disorders are prone to more autoimmune disorders... so lucky! I hope this was helpful, you are the first person I have heard that also has the ear issues.
Joni
09 Sep 2011, 07:21
I'm not at all surprised about this "new" FDA warning. I was diagnosed with RA in 1981, although my suffering began around 1979. I had to jump through hoops to get the next level of treatment.

I already had pretty bad joint deformity before I began Enbrel. I don't feel like the Enbrel makes any difference in my life. I have 2 joint replacements, and every day I struggle from pain. I am bearing weight on an ankle with most of the cartilage gone. In my case, the risks of Enbrel are greater than the benefits.

The one thing that made my life easier and improved my quality of life was hydrocodone. But suddenly my rheumatologist wants me to eventually stop taking it and has offered no suggestion of any other pain killer. In fact, he told me I would have to "learn to live with the pain."

Western medicine makes no sense to me when a doctor would feel comfortable prescribing a high-risk drug to a patient while at the same time asking them to live with constant pain.
Rick
09 Sep 2011, 07:19
I am 50 yrs old and have been using biologics since 2005 and have had no side effects or problems of any kind. These medicines have given me my life back. Before starting biologic therapy, I had been suffering since adolescence with severe psoriasis (most of my body covered) and then began getting psoriatic arthritis (severe morning stiffness, pain, fatigue, etc). I started with Enbrel and now have been on Humira & Methotrexate for the last 5 years. I am so happy these medicines were developed. My skin is clear, my joints don't hurt and I can enjoy life to the fullest now. Please talk to your doctors. When you are on biologics, just pay attention to your health and don't hesitate to see your doctor if you develop an infection. These medicines will only continue to get better.
Tommy
09 Sep 2011, 07:19
I was on Embell, but I began to have shin problems, and I told my Dr. That I did not want to take it anymore. I have been off of it for a year now and my problems ended. My R/A is in check! I just wish I could get off steroids.
glovett
09 Sep 2011, 07:13
Have several types of athritis: psoriatic, ankylodising syondaliasos (sp) ortho. fibromyia......have tried multiple TN






Suffer from several types of arithritis: psoriatic, spondaylosis(sp),ortho, etc. Have tried several TNF's with out positive results. InflAMATION. bONE AND JOINT DESTRUCTION CONTINUES. Any ideas. nUCEALOR ANITBODIES THRU CEILING.







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robin
09 Sep 2011, 06:59
You need to remember that the diseases these meds treat are auto-immune diseases where your own body is attacking itself.

These drugs affect the immune system where these diseases strike.

When you're messing around the immune system there are going to be serious risks.

YOU need to do your research about your disease and treatment options and talk with your doctor, rheumatologist, gastroenterologist or whoever you are seeing.

It is YOUR decision about what treatment you allow. YOU have to weigh the benefits against the risks for yourself!

These treatments do not work for everyone; they are miracle drugs for some.

I am an infusion nurse and administer many of these meds to people who without them would be suffering greatly and not able to participate in any kind of 'normal' life. I have seen a few who cannot tolerate the meds because of side effects, but in almost 20 years of nursing I have only seen one case of a serious result in an elderly woman who developed lymphoma after starting Remicade.
Tammi
09 Sep 2011, 06:49
OMG....I have psoriatic arthritis and have been on the miracle drug,Enbrel since 2006. I now wear short sleeves,have beautiful nails again and can RUN without pain. NOTHING could make me give up this relief. I'd sell everything I own and beg on the streets to pay for my shots before going back to my life of pain. If you are "afraid" to try because of side effects just think of the effects you are living with without it and imagine a normal life again! It is possible. Enbrel stops the progression of joint deterioration.
Marg
09 Sep 2011, 06:40
I was diagnosed with an "atypical" rheumatoid arthritis in 2004. I have been on Enbrel since then and this concerns me as I don't have the RA factor in my blood nor any family history and minor symptoms. I do have significanty bone damage in a wrist and bad knuckles but no recent disease activity.

I am also experiencing a severe loss of hearing due to an inner ear disfunction.Has anyone had ear problems due to an auto-immune disease? I wonder if maybe I should also take methrotrexate in addition to the enbrel. I am 65 years old.
D Clark
09 Sep 2011, 06:17
I've had RA for about 20 years, and was in pretty bad shape physically before I went on Enbrel in 2001. It has been working well for me in combo with a low weekly oral dose of methotrexate.

To the people who've asked "is it worth the risk"...yes it is. Remember that inflammatory arthritis is wreaking havoc on our bodies affecting other organs besides our joints. The best thing we can do is to tamp down the inflammation caused by our immune system run amuck. To let it continue to do damage unchecked is, IMO, not a good option.
Pam Jones
09 Sep 2011, 05:37
I agree with Mary Ann. We wouldn't be taking these drugs if they weren't necessary in order to function. We have the responsibility to stay on top of our health by getting to the doctor at the first sign of problems. We can't let fear overwhelm us.
Jan
09 Sep 2011, 02:19
Been taking biologics for years - first Remicade for 2 yrs, then Humira for 2, and currently Enbrel for past 5 years - never any problem(s) or side effects. Far beats the alternative, terrible pain of RA I experienced before these drugs were available. I'll take my chances!
g holst
09 Sep 2011, 00:18
ok now this is making me sick just to read about this I started humira on 8/27/11 and I am about to take my next shot on 9/9/11 now I really dont no should I ? I really don't know if it works good or not just started help what do you think people??? I will talk to my doctor to but I need to hear from others thanks.
Vicki Streeter
09 Sep 2011, 00:03
I have had RA for thirty years. Enbryl changed my life when it came out. It worked wonderfully for almost 8 years. Then I tried Humira, which did not work and Orencia which also did not help. I am now on Actemra and am receiving the same relief I received with Enbryl. I am now 62 and the quality of life I have on the medications outweigh the risks for me at this point.
Sharon Rajcok
08 Sep 2011, 23:50
I was diagnosed with RA as a child and went through all the nsaids that existed, then in 1999 I was put on Enbrel and it was miraculous. Then in 2001 when the Govt. suspended our right to inject ourselves I was put on Remicade and Methotrexate. I developed a blood problem and was entered into a Humira program in 2003 A 40mg shot every other week until recently it was good but my RA was stronger and I am back on Humira now at 50mg weekly and am much better. I have never had a problem except the blood condition and I am 73 going strong.
Greg Peterson
08 Sep 2011, 23:44
I used Enbrel for decades to treat psoriatic arthritis and was always scared about using something that lowers the immune system.

I mean duh - its doesn't make common sense to suppress one's immune system.

It's suspicious how a drug with these known side effects (cancer, and many other diseases) could be approved for use - as it seems irresponsible.

After noticing I was getting severe sicknesses like bronchitis, I quit using Enbrel - even though it was pushed heavily by my doctor and I was getting it delivered to me under an assistance program (Its very expensive - over $1,000 per month).

I have psoriatic arthritis and during 35 years of treatments noticed that different doctors would press me to use specific medications - that I found lots of promo material around the office for those drugs.

Made me wonder about the gratuities - ie vacations and other benefits - that the doctors may have been given in exchange for promoting a drug.

I have been on methotrexate for over 25 years - and its worries me.
S. Julian
08 Sep 2011, 23:18
I recently had to come off Cyclosporine & Enbrel which together really helped alleviate my psoriasis & psoriatic arthritis symptoms, because a back x-ray just happened to showed a suspicious mass in the center of my 3d lung lobe. It developed in less than 9 mos. w/NO SYMPTOMS--the size of a golf ball. A biopsy of 3 pcs. of the mass showed the source to be fungal, a Southwest desert fungus called coccidiod... The doctors said I was lucky the tumor didn't disseminate & spread to other parts of my body. I'm on an anti-fungal med. for 6 mos.--or indefinitely if I need to go back on immunosuppressants. Maybe a periodic chest x-ray would be advisable for current or previous desert dwellers. I live in El Paso, TX. The coccidio... fungus is more well known for being in the Arizona deserts & can cause Valley Fever. Hope my experience helps someone.
Loretta Dodson
08 Sep 2011, 23:05
I have been on Remicade for 10 years with no infections. I am a nurse and am exposed to pathogens on a daily basis. Before Remicade I had been on numerous meds which did nothing to help me and I was unable to work and was barely able to move and was in alot of pain. Prior to getting RA, I was a gym rat and in great physical shape. I think the benefits outway the risks for me.
Dawn
08 Sep 2011, 22:14
To Dana: I have been using Rituxan in combonation witj Arava since 2009. I have had dramatic improvement and haven't had any side effects at al. I have had one sinus infection, which was probably not related to my medication. Don't be afraid. It's more scary to me to think of not having medicine to help control the disease.

Heather
08 Sep 2011, 22:02
My rheumatologist strongly suggests I combine Enbrel with methatrexate. Does this make me 2X more suseptible to infections? Also when I have a flare I go right on prednisone and it woks almost immediately.
How bad woild a small dose of prednisone daily and not the other meds, be?
I have had RA since 2007. I am 69.
Yuki Takekawa
08 Sep 2011, 21:57
Same question. I'm on Orencia. Does this affect Orencia too?
Jenn Lews
08 Sep 2011, 21:14
I am on Forteo... does that count as in risk???
L. Merrifield
08 Sep 2011, 20:27
I have been on Humira since 2006 with one year off as I was in total remission. I am seldom sick. Have had some minor surgeries without antibiotics or infections. I am so happy I began it early in my disease process as it has been so effective. I am watchful for infection but so far so good.
Dana Cruea
08 Sep 2011, 20:24
Question to Kathy: I have RA and was on Humira, had a bad reaction from it, then they tried me on Orencia, made me sick, then it was Enbrel, wasnt working for me at all, just made me itch more. Now they are wanting to try to put me on the Rituxin, which the side effects from it scares me more than any thing else they had me on, i havent started it yet, but was wondering how long have you been on it? and is it helping you? what about the side effects? thanks Dana.
Lee
08 Sep 2011, 20:23
I have been taking Remicade for over a year feel great ands have had no problems on this medicine. Before that I took enbrel that worked great until my body got use to it.What are we suppose to do to help us feel better if the side affect cause worse problems.
Vanessa Lawson
08 Sep 2011, 20:23
I have had RA since 1989. I was taking steroids, 2 immunosuppressants and anti inflammatory drugs. I have since had hip and knee replacements. I had a life threatening staph infection with one of my replacements. Since 2002 I have been receiving Remicade. it has made a huge difference in my life. I have been able to get off all immunosuppressant drugs, STEROIDS(after 19 years) and finally did away with the anti inflammatory drug.

I literally got out of a wheel chair lost 65lbs and never looked back Yes I am more susceptible to infections using Remicade but I am very aware of my body and the first sign of being sick I get to the doctor as unlike a healthy immune system I will get sick very quickly.

The trick is to take supplements to boost your immune system. Bioastin is a fabulous product that everyone should take. Dr Oz said the same exact thing. The water is your best friend when it comes to exercise with joint problems too.

I hope someone finds this helpful.
John Kaylor
08 Sep 2011, 20:19
i have R.A. for 16 yrs. I have been taken Remicade since 1999. It really helps but i get a lot of infections. I also developed COPD, EMOZAMA & FIBROSES.
LIBBY FOSTER
08 Sep 2011, 20:13
I HAVE BEEN TAKING SHOTS OF HUMRIA FOR SOME TIME NOW,AND I AM F
INE.IF I GET SICK IT IS
LIKE IT WAS BEFORE STARTING THE SHOTS.I ALWAYS FEEL SO MUCH BETTER.I HAD A TOTAL HIP REPLACEMENT FOUR YEARS AGO AND DOING WELL.
Janet Curren
08 Sep 2011, 20:03
I just took my 2nd dose of Humira. I am wondering if it is worth the risk. I had PIP joint replacement in June and saw the doctor today for another follow up.

I teach 3rd grade and I'm constantly exposed to all types of infection. What is your opinion?
Barbara Butler
08 Sep 2011, 20:01
Comment to Irish: I had pleural effusion in the left lung. The docs tried to drain samples out to find out what waws causing it but could not get enough out to make a decision. They packed the liquid with something and did nothing further. Would you believe it is still there and I still don't have any idea what is going on? I feel as though there is a tight band encirling my ribs.
Mary Ann Braun
08 Sep 2011, 19:55
I have RA and have been on quite a few of the TNFs and am now on . When you are on drugs that affect your immune system and, thus, your body's ability to fight off infections by lowering your immunity, one of the most important things you need to do is to see your doctor at the first sign of infection anywhere in your body. The sooner you are seen and a diagnosis is made, the offending organism can be identified and the most appropriate treatment can be promptly initiated. The longer you delay being seen, the more time and opportunities the invading organism has to overcome your bodies natural resistance to disease and increases the likelihood that interventions to overcome any infection will have a tougher time being successful in eradicating the problem. None of us enjoy running to the doctor with every little thing that happens. Believe me, your doctor would much rather be able to tell you there isn't anything to worry about than to have to say to you that they are sorry, but there is nothing that can be done!
Linda Devlin
08 Sep 2011, 19:46
Does this include Benlysta? I get infections constantly and was wondering how this would affect me. We should all be aware of the signs of infection or illness so that we can alert our doctor or go to the ER.
Kathy
08 Sep 2011, 19:36
Does this pertain to Rituxin?
Larry
08 Sep 2011, 19:20
I was taking Humira and got a sore throat that ended up going septic and went to my brain, only by Gods grace am I still here. Dr not longer has me on any of these drugs.
Marilyn Robarge
08 Sep 2011, 19:18
Orencia is not a TNF-inhibiter.
Irish
08 Sep 2011, 19:15
I have had problems the last year almost with pleural effusion the right lung. Has anyone had this problem and how if any did you get rid of it with RA?
LB
08 Sep 2011, 19:07
What are the signs of the infection?
A Robison
08 Sep 2011, 19:03
I had PCP (pneumocystis jiroveci carinii)
pneumonia in June 2011 after being on Humira for RA. I was hospitalized for ten days and have take Bactrim to prevent reinfection while taking Humira. PCP is a fungus present in the air just like pollen, dust, etc.
Beverly Weiner
08 Sep 2011, 18:36
Does this affect Orencia?
B. Latta
08 Sep 2011, 18:33
Same question as above. Does this affect Orencia?
DEB SCHMIDT
08 Sep 2011, 17:32
DOES THIS AFFECT ORENCIA

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