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Misdiagnosed?

Think your doctor missed the mark? Here are seven signs to look for if you feel you’ve been misdiagnosed.

By Brenda Goodman

For 20 years, Frances Muller’s rheumatoid arthritis (RA) was misdiagnosed.

A neurologist told her that the pain in her hands was carpal tunnel syndrome. An internist told her that the all-over aches that struck about four times a year were the flu. An orthopaedic surgeon told her she had bursitis in both shoulders.

“None of my symptoms made any sense,” and none of the treatments helped, says Muller, who lives in Scottsdale, Ariz.

An orthopaedic surgeon who ordered an X-ray of her pelvis finally figured it out – after 13 previous doctors did not. He said there was no way she could have so much damage to her hips and not have RA.

Misdiagnosis is one of the most common medical errors, occurring about 15 percent of the time, according to autopsy studies. And it can have dire consequences, leading to unnecessary or delayed treatments and physical and emotional suffering.

In rheumatology, where symptoms and diseases frequently overlap, experts stress that even scrupulous, experienced and well-intentioned physicians can miss important clues, and they encourage patients to be vigilant, savvy partners in their own care.

“For many rheumatic diseases, there’s no gold standard [for diagnosis],” says Don L. Goldenberg, MD, chief of rheumatology at Newton-Wellesley Hospital in Massachusetts. “You don’t biopsy it. There aren’t a lot of laboratory tests. That’s where the art of medicine comes in, more than the science.

“If patients are concerned, they have the right [to], and certainly should, get a second opinion,” Dr. Goldenberg adds.

To help you decide when it’s time to push for more answers or to seek a second opinion, here are seven red flags that your doctor may have arrived at the wrong conclusion about your condition.

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Jacquie
06 Oct 2010, 09:12
I have read more of the responses and I have to respond to Dr Cindy Mason's comment. I am fortunate enough to live in a small town with a coffeehouse offering open mic on Friday night. There is a beautiful chemistry of folk music and the village attendees who join in chorus that Fred refers to as the "Pumpernickel Choir". Between that and the people who love me, I do so much better even in a flare. Also, without my faith and the help from God, I would be totally devastated. Dr Mason is on to something though I caution that it is not the cure.
Jacquie
06 Oct 2010, 08:53
When I was so bad that I thought I was going blind, I was finally diagnosed with Sjogren's Syndrome. Then every maliday was dumped into Sjogren's Syndrome. I had so much hip pain I could not work and went to Mayo Jacksonville and they considered it a mystery. They moved my joints and I had a test positive for RA but they blamed the Sjogren's. Then I had a rheumatologist 8 years later who moved my joints around and no test. Finally, when I had 2 torn rotator cuffs (RA damage), a nerve conduction doctor had to really touched my skin. He found it!!! "Your joints are hot!" I have become a bold patient who nags until it (whatever it is) is found no matter how long it takes. That takes perserverance and research on my part and finding a doctor who listens.
Sylvia Elbaz
20 Sep 2010, 23:36
Suzanne is right! (20 July 2010)It was a chiropractor who saved my life after I was diagnosed with lupus. It started when I was awakened @ 3am by a burning sensation in my knees as if they had been injected with fire. They were visibly swollen and so were my hands-you couldn't even see the knuckles. I iced everything and put on lots of arnica cream and by morning things were better but the next night @ 3am the same thing happened. After this pattern repeated for a few days I finally went to the doctor, who took a lot of tests which didn't show anything so she sent me to a rheumatologist who took more tests and they decided I had some kind of arthritis. By this time the repeated swellings had ceased thanks to a Naturopath who had given me some essential oils to anoint myself in specific body areas.
However, the final set of blood tests had shown that I was anemic, which had never happened in my life, so the first doctor repeated the hematology tests and the results were worse, so she sent me to the hospital to see if I was bleeding internally. I had CAT scans, MRI, endoscopy, colonoscopy, bone marrow, etc. They decided I had lupus, put me on prednisone and iron and sent me to a rehab facility. By this time I was pale as a ghost and so weak I was in a wheel chair. Even with the meds the lab tests showed the anemia continued to worsen. Then I got a phone call from a chiropractor I knew who practiced an Applied Kinesiology technique Total Body Modification. She said TBM had a protocol for lupus and I said to come ASAP. It only took a few minutes for her to ascertain that I indeed had an auto-immune condition - I was allergic to my red blood cells and was destroying them. Then she did a few adjustments to correct the condition and I felt better right away but dismissed my feelings as wishful thinking. However, the results of the next morning's weekly blood tests, instead of showing the continuing decline, overnight were higher than 2 months previously.(I didn't know this till the end of the week) But a friend who visited me that next morning thought I was wearing make-up because all the color had come back to my face. The best part was that the physical therapist said, "You seem to be much stronger today. I think you can use the walker instead of the wheel chair" They cut the meds dose in half but within a month they were discontinued because I was no longer anemic. But the inflammation had burned up what little cartilage was left in my knees and now I have Titanium knees.
I was supposed to have them @ age 50 when I had a serious accident, but I was saved by a massage therapist. This happened again at age 65. Don't ask how old I am now! I never took meds all those years. I cut out sugar years ago, used homeopathic remedies and herbs, Epsom Salt baths and more. I think that if I had been taking meds for years instead of a few months it would have taken much longer for me to recover from the lupus. Taking anti-inflammatories is like pouring water on a fire - if you keep doing it eventually the structure will collapse.
Lisa
16 Sep 2010, 22:07
This article has meant the world to me. I have been struggling with major symptoms for the past 8 years, but with more minor symptoms since '98 following a car accident. I have been to at least 7 doctors, one of which did not touch me at all during the exam... just sat in front of me to say that the meds were causing my problems. But he could not answer me when I stated that I had the symptoms long before I ever took any meds. Although I have had positive ANA tests, protein in urine, and a few other indicators of inflammation, I have never tested positive for Rheumatoid factor am missing many major indicators of Lupus. I have never had any tender points but have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia mostly because of the negative blood work. I must admit that I have become somewhat jaded in the process, have stopped any new dialogue with my current physician and have resolved myself to my current prescribed treatment. This article has inspired me to search on for a dr that will stick with me until I can somewhat function again. Although I am currently holding a full time job, this past year has proved extremely difficult. Am hopeful that the right dr will dig in to identify the issue at hand and be more open minded towards test results. Thank you again.
dr cindy mason
16 Sep 2010, 12:05
When complex medical situations involving the immune system become life altering, create terrible pain, and typical approaches fail to help.... that is putting it mildly I know...

I'm writing to share a hopeful new direction called psychoneuroimmunology (PNI), which is at a few places like UCLA Med, Rochester, Stanford, etc. It is apparently true that our immune system responds to our emotional happiness .... that we can have a positive effect on the immune system with laughter, that witnessing, receiving, or giving kindness also has a positive effect....

Changing our lives, relations, jobs, and inner thoughts, are much harder than taking pills... but it does turn out to be one way we can help the immune system... its different for each of us, but it was good to discover this.

Juli
16 Sep 2010, 11:53
I read all your posts and I share all your pain and frustrations. I was finally diagnosed (after 4 years) with Ankylosing Spondilitis and Fibromyalgia. Confirmed with exrays, exams and blood tests. Been seeing a wonderful rhuemotology dr. HOWEVER, after 3 years of treatments not one Dr seems to take my pain seriously! I take OTC pain meds like they are M&Ms...and they do me just about that much relief. I'm not a drug seeker (most seem to make me sick), Its not all in my head and I really just want a few days in a row when I can actually enjoy my day.
Joyce
16 Sep 2010, 11:44
PAIN! How long must we endure w/o some doctor finding an answer? Is it about money,in & out office appointments, or do they just not care.
For years I have endured body pain like all of you. Hands, knees, my feet are stiff-tingly-swell, my back is a mess. I can barely walk and have been told I have spinal stenosis & spinal arthritis. Last week I got my back shots and the doctor said "you really need a surgeon to clean the arthritis out of your spine". If this procedure was a sure bet I would dash forward. All I can see is a wheel chair in my future and pain, pain, pain. Does anyone have a sucessful back story?
Karen
16 Sep 2010, 11:32
This is the third time that I have seen and read this article. I actually printed it and have taken the article to two RA docs. The first one said that she does not believe in such things and the second RA doc wouldn't not even look at the article. I have repeatly had tests, exams, xrays all coming back normal. I have several other docs, chiropractors, and PTs who have seen my pelvic area and said that it is very messed up. I hurt in all my hip, shoulders, and knee & hand joints and my back is also bad. I live in the St. Louis area and am not finding any help. Any suggestions please? My pain is great and very real. Thank you and take care. :)
Headacheslayer
07 Sep 2010, 11:29
I am a zebra and have been for 15 years. Thankfully, 5 years ago, I found my own "Dr. House", a family practitioner (D.O.) who has worked with me endlessly to get answers.

I've lost track of how many doctors and tests I've had. I've left appointments in tears, crying all the way home, either because a doctor said "your tests are normal--you just need to lose weight" or telling me it's all in my head.

I don't doubt my current diagnoses of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia (15 yrs) as well as Chronic Daily Headache and Complex Migraine Disease (6yrs). But it wasn't until I took some info to my doc, I call her Dr. Awesome, and asked her if I could have psoriatic arthritis.

My xray results show that it is a strong likelihood (as well as ankylosing spondylitis), and I'm waiting to see (yet another) rheumatologist. I'm not happy but reading the symptoms from a reputable source, it all clicked. How long have I had it? Who knows. But I am positive that had one of the specialists I've seen took just a bit more time with me it might have been dagnosed sooner, with less damage to my back and hips.

It's a shame we have to work so hard when we feel our worst, and hire and fire doctors when they fail us. But I don't let doctors push me around anymore.

Great article, thank you!
Michele Macy
26 Aug 2010, 23:33
I have a similar story, and I've read all of the comments before me and have to wonder if this is a record number of responses to an article on this site, or not? I have finally been properly diagnosed with Celiac Sprue and Psoriatic Arthritis--both of which are auto immune disorders that affect the joints and skin. I was mis-diagnosed for 12 years, by a variety of physicians (including specialists) in 3 states--Georgia, Florida & Maryland. I was told I had carpal tunnel, osteo arthritis, fibromyalgia, bursitis and, for a decade I had been told by multiple dermatologists that I had Dermatitis Herpetiformis, but not a single one told me that this type of dermatitis was a symptom of Celiac disease! It took a wonderful PCP, who actually listened to my medical history, to do the bloodwork (which revealed the antibodies) and made the first "correct" diagnosis of Celiac Sprue. Actually, as I was to learn from the NIH website, the "average" time, in the U.S.A., from "onset of symptoms" to "diagnosis" is 11 years. (While in the rest of the world it is 2-3 weeks.)- So, if you use that statistic, I was not too far behind the others misdiagnosed/undiagnosed in this country. Other countries screen for this at birth, but not in America. Despite the fact that my mother's side of the family contains several cousins with auto-immune disorders and a cousin with Celiac Sprue, none of my doctor's paid any attention or asked any questions. I was referred to one memorable Rheumatologist who did no tests and didn't even look at my x-rays, he just simply looked at my bare feet--and pronounced that I had fibromyalgia! Eventually, another bright, above-average PCP concluded that I had Psoriatic Arthritis, as I have had Psoriasis since childhood on my knees & elbows and in my nails. If you have been diagnosed with one auto-immune disorder, then the odds are much higher that you have several-(or more than one). You must be your own advocate in the search for a proper diagnosis, and sometimes a third or fourth opinion may be neccessary until you find a medical professional who will not only listen, but also take the time to ask detailed questions about your symptoms and your medical history. I have heard too many stories similar to my own. When it comes to your health, being a "squeaky wheel" and being persistent in letting your doctor know what treatment is or isn't working is vital to solving the riddle. If your physician makes a diagnosis and prescribes a treatment that doesn't change your symptoms, don't give up and assume it'll go away, eventually. Make a follow-up appointment and go back and tell them it's not working and be prepared to repeat this process a few times, as the process of diagnosis relies on eliminating one possibility after another
until success is achieved.
sibyl
04 Aug 2010, 01:43
I have read everyones comments and my prayers go up for us all. I'm a 55 year old female, mother of 4, grandmother of 13 and great grandmother of 1. My parents was told that I had writers cramps at the age of 10 in(1966)and at age 15 they finally decided that I was old enough to have arthritis. My joints would cramp and hurt something awful. My siblings and friends said I was putting on. I took a job at age 17 in the textile mill doing a winding job and yarn service. It lasted for 8 years with much pain and agony. No meds professional or over the counter helped me. There was a drug called cope that I tried but it was not good. It caused my stomach much problems as well as tylenol and all the other pain relievers. I started having hives that would pop up in my feet, hands, lips, and head. Boy was that a mess. They caused much discomfort and itching. The only thing that helprd was a hot soaking bath. The problem with that was, I had no idea that my nerveous system was shot. I would wake up at night with awful pain in my hands and swollen the side of a mans. I suffered for 20+ years with pain in my body that I thought only elderly prople had. I would watch my grandmother suffering and thought she was just being lazy. Oh, how I had to apoligize and eat crow pie. Finally, after almost burning down my home and scalding my self to death the doctors decided to do further test. I was told by the nerve doctor, respirtory doctor, bone doctor along with pc doctor that I was a walking dead woman. They did the carpal tunnel surgery on both my hand but after they cut me open both times they could not find a problem. Yep the Lord did it. I did not have anymore problems with joint pain in my hands and the hives were gone also. I know someone reading this will say there was nothing wrong in the first place but don't have to be made a believer like I was. Oh I have since been hit with other illnesses mentioned in the comments, as a matter of fact they want to do back and neck surgery on me now but I'm not ready to endure that type risk especially with no guarantee that I will not have anymore problems. All the meds they want me to take have more side effects than the problems I'm already having. So, I just cry, pray, rest and put my trust and faith in God the one who knows just what my body needs to be healed. Most of my days are good ones and I thank Him. I pray we all will be made whole again, God bless U all.
Tom Mangus
03 Aug 2010, 18:05
Hi Guy's and Gal's: I struggled for several hours to respond or not. I finally decided it might help rather than hinder.
I am a 74 year old retired Pharmacist who began with a bout of Gouty Arthritis in my left big toe. My PCP,after some blood tests decided I had the beginnings of Rheumatoid Arthritis. He started me on Prednisone oral tablets, Methotrexate and because I had a back pain issue, Darvon Compound-65 for control of pain. These combinations worked to some extent for 20 + years. As I aged the pain level and RA flair-ups began to take their toll. To complicate medical issues I experienced an episode of chest pain that precipitated in a quadruple by-pass heart surgery. I was lucky in that didn't add any medications to my regimen.
My RA flair-ups began more frequently and with vigor moving from an elbow to knee to wrist to hand to back and then all of the above repeatedly. I summoned the help of a Rheumatologist who started me on a new oral medication Arava 25mg. Within a week I had a reaction to Arava that resembled second degree burns on my lower legs. I stopped immediately taking the Arava and we began treating my lower legs. We cleared these up and she started me on Enbrel injections twice a week. My insurance initially paid for Enbrel at $600.00 per month. I changed employment and the insurance did not cover Enbrel. Enbrel brought my RA under total control. I could not afford the cost of Enbrel so the Rheumatologist and I reverted back to Methotrexate, Folic Acid, Vitamin D, etc. This seemed to manage my RA except for those #*^%# flair-ups. We then added Medrol Dosepacks (Methylprednisilone) to get my flair-ups under control.
My back kept raising its ugly head and then my Orthopedic Surgeon decided I had a Stenosis of the spine that required surgery to remove burrs in my spinal canal. I continued with chronic back and lower leg pain. I started with Epidural injections to help control the pain. These were somewhat helpful. I continued to have chronic lower back pain radiating down my legs. My Orthopedic surgeon decided that I needed Lamenectomy surgery at L-3, L-4 & L-5 requiring freezing these vertrabrae and placing a bone graft on each side of my spinal cord to limit flexibility in my back. I continued to have chronic low back pain radiating down to my legs along with muscle pain. During all this my RA continued to have periodic flair-ups. I started falling down as my right knee would collapse without warning of any kind. Both my Rheumatologist and Orthopedic surgeon decided I needed a Neurology consult as I did not have any appropriate joint reflexes. The Neurologist performed an EMG test or Electromyleogram to test the muscle response of arms and legs. The diagnosis identified was Polymyositis which is a disease of the muscles that affects the shoulder, neck, arms, hands, legs. It can affect the ability to swallow.
I consulted with my Pharmacist during all phases of medication changes.
So much for my pity party.
Many PCP's have the knowledge and ability to treat RA and related diseases. Consult your physician whether a PCP, Rheumatologist, Neurologist, Orthopedist for appropriate treatment. Medicine is an art applied by medical practioners. Consult your Pharmacist for any drug issue. Our bodies are a very complicated system. Appropriate treatment for any disease requires a specialized treatment for your individual medical problem. We are all different and require different solutions.
Most of all Don't Give Up!

G Switzer
30 Jul 2010, 10:37
This is an excellent article and all health care practitioners should read it. But I have a complaint about the use of the often repeated claim that medicine is an art and NOT a science. As a practitioner promoting science and evidence based medicine over the 'bad' medicine too many people believe in, I'm concerned that saying medicine is not a science promotes the false belief, medical science is not reliable. That is not the case.

Scientific evidence supports the conclusion that underlying messages have significant impacts we are not always aware of. The more we repeat the false message that medicine is not a science we may actually be reinforcing patients' distrust of medical science, which is a serious problem in medicine just as misdiagnoses are.

A better statement and easy change would be to say, medicine IS a science, but practicing medicine is still an art.

dawn
29 Jul 2010, 15:37
I have had joint pain and swelling on and off for 10 yrs. RA tests done 10 yrs ago were negative. About 3 months ago, I started to have my hands fall asleep at night. Mentioned to PCP and he thought carpal tunnel. i thought maybe it was my birth control pill OCella. So i stopped taking it. I felt better for about a week, then all hell broke loose and the joint pain extended to my knees, ankles, shoulders and neck. I can't talk on the phone without my hand falling asleep. Cant type long either. I am a nursing student! PCP ordered RA blood tests again. all negative. sent me to Rheumatologist anyway. He ordered tons of blood tests, xrays.. still all negative. only thing was C4 was a little bit low. He gave me Mobic 7.5. I take two in the morning. And Tramadol 50mg every 6hrs for pain. I'm able to function to take care of my kids but am really scared about starting nursing school back up in fall. Dr. said I don't have RA. What is it???? I can't live like this! My feet fall asleep and also I have a numb big toe for the last month. Going back to Rheumatologist in two weeks. I need some answers!
Sherry
29 Jul 2010, 08:42
I saw so many doctors bless them all, and so much medication. Wow!! What worked bless for me was good old exercise and faith in God. He got rid of all the pain!
Tina Beatty
26 Jul 2010, 08:51
I am a single mother of 3 boys, a set of 6 year old twins and a 14 year old that is active in sports. I manage a convenient store, stock, unload deliveries and run a cash register. Two months before my 35th birthday my wrists began swelling and knots were coming up on them in the mornings I could just barely move them. My pcp told me that it was carpel tunnel and referred me to a surgeon at this point I could just barely move my fingers because the pain and swelling was so bad in my fingers and wrists. The surgeon couldn't see me for a few months and before the appointment my knees began to do the same thing, I couldn't bend my knees or even hardly use my hands, and of course my customers, boss, and boys dad said that it was all for attention. Luckily my doctor believed me, but she did not want to give me anything for pain. RA tests were negative, even though she was sure that it had to be some kind of arthritis. I saw a rheumatologist and he said possibly fibromyalgia, but nothing else was wrong so maybe it was all in my head. I got a copy of his report from my Dr. saying that I was in good health and nothing was wrong. So watch your medical reports close it also said no chance of fibromyalgia. At this point I was unable to walk, use my hands, or even lift my arms they were dead weight and the pain was so unbearable, then it got to the point that I couldn't work, my boss was very unsympathetic although he has a wife with m.s. and had told me many times how she was as bad off as me, only they didn't have kids to raise, laundry, dishes, work, or food to cook. My ex became my care taker rather than my enemy at this point I was off work for 6 months and almost lost my boys over all of this. I even took an 8 hour trip one way to a very reputable hospital, being told they were the best in all fields, the rheumatologists were great, but still no luck, I was told 0 negative rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia, but this was a trip I could not take again, by the time my dad got us home after 16 hours on the road and 5 hrs. at the clinic, he had to carry me into the house. The communication was not good between the clinic and my dr. I was ready to give up, you can never understand the pain that a person can endure until you are in the position yourself. I was ready to give up and die, my kids were upset because they thought I didn't want to do things with them I was at wits end. At this point I begged for another referral to an arthritis clinic and that is when they knew it had to be one of two arthitises attacking, but which one. Methotrexate pills weren't working, so they began me on a high dose of steroids, to calm down the swelling and they didn't believe in 0 negative arthritis. I have had a small case of psoriasis since I was a teenager, so they was looking into that. For 1 year I took 1 mg.of prednisone and put on about 50 lbs. Now I have having a hard time getting my weight back under control, but the answer for me was 25 mg. methotrexate injections 1 per week and many other pills along with vitamins, I was diagnosed a month ago with fibromyalgia and psoriatic arthritis, which has the same effects as RA, after 2 years I am still not sure if this is the right diagnosis because I just have a very small amount of psoriasis behind my ears, but I will accept it for now. I can really tell the difference if I am just a couple of days late on the methotrexate, this is a miracle drug. I am back to work and doing things with my children, the summer weather has been a real challenge, I still swell some and of course I deal with the pain on a daily basis but I regulate my intake and take percocet to make it through work (I regulate them quite a bit and deal with the pain a lot because I am afraid to become addicted to them), but I am working and spending time with my boys. I hope that this does get better and I do plan to get a referral to see another rheumatologist and just see what the future holds. You do have to keep moving although there will still be pain other wise the disease will take over and you will not be able to enjoy what time you have with your children. My boys have a 90% chance of getting this rather it be RA or psoriatic arthritis and as much as I hope that they never have to go through this, I feel that I am a role model for them and I want them to see that if mom can get through this and deal with it on a daily basis then they will be able to if the time ever comes. My boys are my life and I don't want them to remember me as a weak and volnurable person that didn't care enough for them to try and take care of myself. If it weren't for them and work I am confident that I would not be walking to this day, I would have given up with the first doctor and just laid down and become a vegetable. I am sorry that I have babbled on but it is very important that you keep getting referrals until you find a doctor that believes you, they are out there and they can help to make it a little more tolerable, you wouldn't give up on your children if this was happening to them, so show them that your not going to give up on yourself for their sake. Good Luck and I hope that we can all find a way to tolerate this more as time goes on.
susan
22 Jul 2010, 23:34
i haven't been diagnosed with ra, i have deg. disc disease and arth. ? i have an app. with a neurosurgeon in aug. i just turned 39 I'm still working. ironically i am an in home aid, working with the disabled. every day gets harder and i have a 6 yr old that i have to tell i cant do things with. i feel very guilty. i am so tired of hearing from other people (you don't know anything about pain yet, wait until you get older) pain is pain i don't care how old you are. i am sorry for you all, but at least i know i am not alone.
C. Sheepdog
22 Jul 2010, 20:44
I was dx with Fibro by a workers' comp rheumatologist. In my gut, I knew this couldn't be correct so I went to my PCP asking for a referral to another rheumatologist not related to WC. She dx me with RA after ordering a MRI and blood work that the first doctor didn't do. Remember, you have to be an advocate for your own body if you feel something isn't right. I am now being treated properly after it took over a year to see a decent doctor who really cared about me.
Wendy Allen
22 Jul 2010, 16:52
I am 42 and have been diagnosed with RA, OA, Lupus, Fibro and Mollarets Syndrome. However, I am serum negative but x-rays show OA and RA. The Mollarets was diagnosed by Mayo which ties into Lupus. My concern is I started back on methotrexate which makes me soooo sick. I want to stop but I am afraid of my future without it. The future being sick after my shot every week doesn't sound good either. is anyone on Methotrexate and does it get any better???
naomy
22 Jul 2010, 14:58
I have had pain since 12 years old and know one new what it was. Both knees then Both shoulders then hips,always tired.It would come and go,sometimes for 3 years then go away for 3 months...on and on. At 35 my hands and every other typical RA joint began to hurt at the same time and it didnt go away. Diagnosis RA. I took DMARD's for two years that didnt help so I stopped and tried lifestyle diet changes for 3 years,it only got worse. I went to the same Rheumatologist who diagnosed me 5 years earlier to have him say 'its not RA or he would see a lot more joint damage"my X-rays look ok. Then he gave me back a drug I took for 2 years even though it didnt help before. I have classic RA symptoms [all of them] but my blood markers are normal.ANA/CRP/ESR/Sed rate.No Lupus. The pain in all RA joints ,chronic fatiuge,morning stiffness that lasts 2 hours,cant bend or lift my arm over shoulder level cause they go to sleep,legs and feet too.I walk with cane a lot, both hips can feel like fire, elbows knees feet jaw wrists hands shoulders,clavical,neck. MY life is almost gone , cant work,can't play with my 8yr old son,can't plan anything,cant type or sit long. Dont get to go out to grocery store much even. praying.
Joanie Buchanan
21 Jul 2010, 23:04
I too have experienced what most of you have written. For months and months I had joint pain and swelling, It was in my feet, ankles, wrist, arms and I would not know from day to day where the pain was going to show up. After about six visits to our family doctor I was ready to pull my hair out. Once when the pain was going from my left foot and then into my knee, she said I probally had a blood clot and sent me for a MRI, ( money and time wasted ) by the time the results came back, the pain had left the left knee and settled into the right knee, she was going to send me to an orthopedic surgeon because the MRI results said I had a loose body part DUH!!!! I told her no way, because the pain had shifted to the other knee and what the heck did they mean loose body part and she said maybe a small piece of bone had chipped off. I told her I don't think so, and if you don't know what my problem really is , just be a big girl and admit it, and she did, but said let her take blood work and check for Lupus and RA, I was floored but had to jab her anyway, so I said
"why did it take you a year to finally decide to take blood work?' She said, well once I thought you had the flu, and just some inflamation. Well! three days later she personally called me with an apology and said she would get me an appointment with a rheumatologist right away, one of the best in North Carolina that normally takes three months to get an appointment with. My RA blood panel had come back with a 487 count. Normal is 0 to 20. I was in the rheumatologist office two days later. Spent over 4 hours there getting a full body bone density test, x-rays, and two meetings with the doctor. He has me on 8 methatrexates a week, folic acid daily, 50,000 units of vitamin D every two weeks, started out on 6 prednisone a day, now off of that except if I have a flare up, and I can finally function almost normally, the things I have learned is that you have to be persistant with your doctor (which I wasn't to begin with) and you have to control the RA and not let it control you, even though some days it is really hard. What my RA doc explained to me is that, there is no cure but it can be managed and with the methatrexate, it is to keep my joints from becoming distorted and I have to have blood work done every 8 weeks to make sure the kidneys, liver, etc. is doing ok, I feel I have been blessed to get to the right specialist. Also to any of you that may be interested, there is a great magazine that I have a subscription to that has answered a lot of questions and concerns that I have had, it is called Arthritis Today. I got my first copy free at the RA doctors office, loved it and subscribed to it that same day. You can visit their website at WWW.ARTHRITISTODAY.ORG or at 1-800-283-7800 to subscribe. Also not long after I was diag. with RA, I was in Barnes and Noble and bought the biography of the movie actress Kathleen Turner that she wrote on her being misdiagnosed with her RA. She is now a great advocate with the Arthritis Foundation. That was a great book and worth the read. It makes you feel that you are not alone in this terrible ride. Best of luck to all of you.
Marty
21 Jul 2010, 18:53
This comment is for DIXIE. I was diagnosed with RA at the age of 26. I am now 65 and have had a wonderful life. I want to encourage you. You have a wonderful life ahead of you. Do not let RA define you. You must keep active; keep your weight in line; and you must realize that the disease is like a roller coaster with many ups and downs. Know that there will be times, perhaps years, that you will feel great. Stay ahead of the pain by taking medication as prescribed. Don't be defined by RA!
Jessica Jones
21 Jul 2010, 17:16
I was diagnosed w/ osteoartritis in '09. I've been taking an anti-inflamatory, muscle relaxers and also, medication for pain. I have good days and bad ones and go on w/ my daily routines like normal while in pain. I take my meds @ bedtime so they will perhaps wear off before my next day. What I'm still wondering is which pill gonna kick in first to give me some relief.
So far I'm just experiencing side effects from my perscriptions.
Susan
21 Jul 2010, 15:34
Dixie, while I would never presume to say "I know how you're feeling" (because I'm not you and don't know), I can sympathize. At age 19 I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis (I'm now 53) and was told to "keep busy". I was in college at the time, so staying busy was easy. Of course there was pain, but it didn't get worse until much later. I became a mother at 26 and thought "this OA isn't too bad, what's all the fuss about". While my son grew, I was always busy. When he became a teen, I got lazy and didn't keep busy. Until then, keeping busy included regular exercise. Unfortunately for me, my OA aided in degeneration of my vertebrae and discs and was the primary reason that I developed degenerative scoliosis in my neck and low back. After 2 failed surgeries I was unable to walk and could barely use my left arm and hand. Being stubborn is my second name! I went for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th opinion until I finally found the right doctor who performed 2 major reconstructive surgeries, both of which were smashing successes. After 2 years of intensive physical, occupational and swim therapy, I can walk without assistance and have regained some of the use of the arm and hand. My advice to you is never give up, talk to your doctor about going to swim or aqua therapy and to help you work out a simple stretching and exercise routine that will afford you some relief.
Nancy
21 Jul 2010, 15:13
Suzanne, I don't believe even a GOOD chiropractor can help with rheumatoid arthritis pain! From what I was told ,by a chiropractor, there is nothing they can do for RA.
Dixie
21 Jul 2010, 14:36
I'm only 23 yrs old and have RA, I was shocked is the least to say cuz I thought it only happened to those 3x my age so when I speak with those older then me there not as understanding as i thought they would be because I am much younger then the average RA patient that since I'm younger I don't hurt the same.I hear it all the time " oh your young it can't be that bad" well it is I'm on 6 methotrexates a week and they're barely cutting it,then theres the antiinflamatory meds and all the other stuff that goes with it, to top it off I have a 2yr old boy. What I wouldn't give to be able to run with him or just keep up with him I'm not obese its the joint pain and swelling, whens it gonna stop hurting is my question? I guess I'm niave when it comes to this I like quick fix ideas and I haven't gotten used to the fact that I'm stuck with this for the rest of my life. Is there any other like me out there, Because I understand what your going thru, We do hurt.
Belinda Carney
21 Jul 2010, 11:39
I completly understand the pain without insurance. I have been suffering with pain,stiffness,and low grade fevers. My hands will swell and my feet hurt when I get up in the middle of the night. My doctor said the blood test did not show RA, but at 46, he said I have signs of wear & tear arthritis. He said since I have no insurance to see a specialist, there is really nothing he can do.
Alanna
21 Jul 2010, 11:29
Ten years ago my rheumatologist told me I had RA. For ten years I tried different anti-inflammatory drugs which upset my stomach and gave me ulcers. I tried Enbrel, Remicade and Orencia, nothing worked. The flu like symptoms were worse and the pain in my joints were debilitating. I ended up going to a pain management doctor who gave me Percocet. I was on this for four years. Later the morphine was added the Percocet was not enough. I missed a lot of work and a lot of life. In January I went to another doctor to get a second opinion. I never had RA and it was the side affects from the drugs that was causing everything. He took me off all anti-inflmatory drugs and the Orencia. Today, I am healthy, no more narcotics, no more drugs. I do have osteoarthritis in my hands. Question your doctor, if you don't get answers get a second opinion.
Sheila
21 Jul 2010, 01:43
All of these stories sound so familiar!! Every doctor I go to looks at my insurance-medicare-and I am overweight due to so many steroids, shots and meds. I have no bones sticking out so they form an opinion of me before they even see me!! They all act like I am some kind of drug addict and I only want pills!! I hate having to take so many meds. and would welcome some procedure to help alleviate the pain. I would actually prefere it. I hate taking pills!! GRR Someone with regular insurance can go to the same doctor and get the royal treatment but if you are disabled and have government insurance you are trash in their eyes because it doesn't pay what they want! They don't listen to you. They already have an opinion of you before you even meet them :(
Dorene Anderson
20 Jul 2010, 23:47
Two year ago I was in so much pain. My Primary Doctor told me I had the flu. He even gave me shot in my shoulders due to me being unable to get out of bed in the mornings. After a couple of week of severe pain I hurt on both ide of my body in all my joints. I could not drive or dres myelf. My adult children went back to my Doctor and he finally ordered blood test for Arthritist. When the test came back I was referred to a Rheumatoligist right away and wa diagnoised with RA. I am doing fine now, on Methrotrexate 5 pills weekly and 2 folic acid pills and 3000 mg salalate and I am able to drive and exercie. I am glad my family came with me to my original Doctor.
Suzanne
20 Jul 2010, 21:09
You guys with pain should see a GOOD Chiropractor..... amazing how this helps and without medication....
Barbara
20 Jul 2010, 19:26
I broke my ankle nine years ago. Now i have Arthritis in my big toe. The DR. wants to do surgery on it. He wants to fuse the joint.he says the pain will go away but the toe will still be stiff. I can move my toe a little bit. Should i have the surgery?
Ruby
20 Jul 2010, 19:25
After reading these comments I just had to put my 2cents worth in. About 5 yrs ago I had what is called "trigger finger" on my right hand. That finger got to the point it locked down, had to take other hand to straigh that finger out. I went to, what I thought was a very copinent Orthopedic Surgio, that finger is much worse now.
So sometime even a second oppenion needs to be checked out.
I have been troubled with joint pain for over 50 years. I am now 79, yes I expect to have some aches & pain, but when doctors & nurses ask me about my pain 1 to 10. I tell them 7- 8, they tell they do not see enough to indicate I have that much pain??
Which leaves me thinking "I am nut"
The Doctors seem to be in medicine now for the money rather than helping people.
Myla Smith
20 Jul 2010, 19:08
i was diagnosed with R.A. in january of this year but the pain really started in june 2009. in the meantime i've had to suffer in extreme pain. i'm now taking 8 mexotrethate pills once a week, vicodin, fish oil & folic acid daily. it seems to bring some relief but not completely. every day is a different pain.
Laura
20 Jul 2010, 18:48
I just wanted to say to all of you out there suffering - hang in there, get the 2nd, 3rd or 4th opinions! I was 42 yrs old when I was diagnosed with RA, and was hobbling like an old lady, knees were swelled up like soccer balls, ankles like softballs, couldn't get dressed by myself, hands felt like they were being slammed in a car door - excruciating. I was told by one dr it was all in my head (despite the swellings and low grade fever), I was being a whiner, we all get aches and pains as we get older. The next Dr. got me started on a regimen, (2 days later from "it's all in your head Dr") put cortisone shots in both knees the first visit. However, I didn't respond as well or quickly to the regimen and my hair started falling out A LOT - I could see my scalp (thanks to the methotrexate), and when I asked what about losing my hair, what can we do - I was told to stop being so vain and get over it. Right then and there I decided it's time to find another Dr.- he was darn lucky I didn't spit in his face I was so mad! My present Dr is an angel sent from heaven; she listens and tweaks things when they need tweaking etc. Hang in there ladies and keep asking questions, and don't settle for less than good service - you ARE WORTH IT!
Alice D. Elam
20 Jul 2010, 17:21
OMG! I am in sooo much pain sometimes I sit and cry, I don't know what's wrong with me, I have been waiting for 2 mos. to see a specialist (I don't have ins.)my former Dr. said that it might be RA or fibro. or lupus, so I'm play a waiting game and still in pain. My husband thinks that if I would only exercise more I would feel better, I can't seem to make him understand that exercise or the lack there of is not the issue, but is the source of many arguements. I am glad that I finally have a sounding board someone just to listen to me, and hopefully I will see a doctor, and get a correct diagnoses and treatment, Thanks for listening
Rita
20 Jul 2010, 16:05
I so feel all of the anguish and pain (pyhysically and mentally) all of you have because I have been there, gone through that, and am still there!! I am now 55 yrs. old, a single mom for yrs. Up til 2 yrs. ago worked 2/3 jobs--then had to quit because I couldn't even hardly walk anymore, besides pain in about every other place. Didn't have any savings, couldn't afford insurance, companies I worked for didn't have anything I could afford--so you tried to get through the best you could with pain and everything else. Finally, when you get to a dr. it had to be one that would see you knowing you don't have insurance or big money,,and despite what some people claim, there are not many drs. and hospitals that will do that. Anyway, like lots of you, I got drs. that said was just flu,,some say just getting old and things are supposed to start breaking down, one finally said Fibromyalgia.Lots of medicine they say is good for those things, couldn't afford..so I quit even trying to go to dr. for while--they begin to say it might just be my imagination!! I said, "Well, give me something for my imagination then, cause my imagination sure feels alot of pain!!" Trying to make this a little shorter, lol, finally was able to get on medicaid and SSI--2 yrs. later !!,, But still faced with bout the same problems--you can only go to certain drs,,and of course health has gotten lots worse now,, they will tell you what they think is wrong with you--not listen to what you are telling them is wrong with you--finally got to a Rheumatologist that said definitely RA--not fibro or any of that--am on sev. meds for that--helped in beginning but not doing so much now--have fallen couple times cause knee gave out, it is swollen 3 times size of other knee--even tho that dr. helped some, I can't seem to get it across to him to do something else, more tests, or anything.. I even had to beg him the other day to at least take xray of knee to see how bad its swelling and getting deformed.. yes, its worse was all he said when they came back,, stay on meds I put you on.. dadada!! That may be all that can be done, but when they come in and gone in 4 min.. I sure don't feel like they listen at all!! Then you are still there with all the anguish, pain, frustrations,, if they would only listen to you,, that would help alot and act like they care !! I sure would rather be out there trying to work outside of home,,now can't even hardly get house things done in house. It is even very rare that I have been able to sit for this long and type this letter without too much pain. Thank you all for listening--others don't want to hear these problems, or even think you have these problems--even family or ones you thought was your friends!!
Carolyn
20 Jul 2010, 16:04
Josie:

The wonderful surgeon that someone told you about, who exactly gave you the name? Reading your comments reminded me of when I was sent by DES to their doctor to determine if I was disabled or not. My doctors and yes there were a few, all said the same thing and had the same diagnosis but that wasn't good enough so they sent me to their own contracted doctor. My mother went with me so I had a witness. The doctor did absolutely nothing, didn't touch me or anything. I was in and out of his office in about two minutes. The diagnosis he was supposed to confirm was fibromyalgia. His report said I was fine. I challenged his diagnosis because I had other reports that disagreed and I contacted someone high up the chain and told them that their doctor did nothing as far as an examination and I had a witness to that fact. They apologized and accepted my medical doctors diagnosis (there were three) and I had to contact my U.S. Senator to get help with the remaining part of getting disability from social security. Not only have you been removed from being able to get medical help at no charge but you can't even get a correct diagnosis. The pin you had inserted may have been a part of a test that checked your nerve responses. I had it done for carpal tunnel syndrome and the doctor inserted several pins and then turned on electrical charges. I screamed too because it was more than just painful. Don't give up, you need to know what happened and what your true diagnosis is. Keep trying and you will find a decent and honest doctor.
Josie
20 Jul 2010, 15:30
I could no longer hold things in my hand. I kept dropping them. I saw one doctor who said that I would have to have surgery. I guess I was not readyto hear this and I had my work to think about. Finally, someone told me of a great surgeon for the hand. I went to this surgeon because I could no longer stand the pain and could not function in my work. He said I would be as good as new in one month. That was one year and 3 months ago. I had to go to see him monthly as per my insurance plan. He would always say that I am doing well. I was in excruciating agony. I had had a pin in my hand and it hurt. When he removed it I received no anaesthesia so I screamed. This was never written in his reports. He can never make mistakes so his assistant erroneously filled out a form that basically stated that I could do what a young healthy person could. She never examined me nor did she ever speak with me except for the few how are you? What she wrote caused me to lose my disability status. I saw another doctor who said exactly what part of the problem was. The only problem was I had to go back to the surgeon so he could correct the records. I finally did, but he never did. I am still in pain and my hand will never be the same. It has reached a plateau. I still do the exercises and have ADLs, but I cannot get back the money the insurance company owes me. I have a bad spine so I also am in physical therapy. What bothers me most is something bad was done to my hand and no one will tell me exactly what.
Flora
20 Jul 2010, 14:48
In the beginning, when RA was suspected, I was sent to a rheumatologist who said that I did not have RA because the rheumatoid factor was within normal range. For three years she treated me for fibromyalgia before I decided to go out of state to a medical school.

Even at that, my family was concerned because I was spending every weekend in bed so exhausted and aching after somehow getting through a 5-day week. When my husband mentioned this to my family physician, he had another rheumatoid factor taken, only to find that it was greatly elevated. Although I had been seeing a rheumatologist out of state for 4 years, he continued to diagnose my condition as fibromyalgia and evidently didn't take the needed blood tests. One week after returning from this doctor, a local rheumatologist spent 2 1/2 hours questioning me and taking tests. Aha, finally a diagnosis of RA. At this stage of the game, I was given a poor prognosis.

Strangely enough, when I had been at the other doctor's office only a week before, he told me that I was in no distress and didn't need to see him for another 6-9 months. Six months later, I returned to that doctor for a second opinion concerning the medications I was taking and to make a point. He had the nerve to tell me that he didn't realize that I was in so much pain because I didn't moan and groan about my pain. That isn't my MO, even today, after going through just about every DMARD around and three anti-T Alpha medications.

I had a wonderful doctor at Vanderbilt University for 7 years who was very efficient and even suggested that I go into a Phase 4 Blind Study for the present drug known as Remicade. After her death, I started seeing a new local rheumatologist. Today I am blessed to have had a rheumatologist for the past 4 years who listens to me and tries to keep me on a regimen of medications that lessen the joint destruction and discomforts of the disease. It took me 11 years to get to that point.
sue
20 Jul 2010, 12:51
I spent months on crutches because I could not walk because of the pain. One doctor said I had a stress-fracture in my hip. Another said I had severe arthritis and to "live with it until you're in so much pain you can't stand it" and then he would replace my hip. After seeing 5 doctors, I finally scheduled an appt. at Mayo Clinic. They diagnosed the problem right away (torn labrum and cartilage). The doctors there took the time and did the tests until they figured out the correct problem and fixed it. Now I have problems with my knee. They believe it was due to spending 7 months on crutches and a few more months walking improperly to compensate for the hip pain. Whatever you do, get a second opinion and if you don't get the same diagnosis or relief---get a third, fourth, etc. whatever it takes. Doctors are not gods and don't know everything and some do not take the time to figure out the true cause of the pain. 13 months later, I am just starting to be able to walk again. If I had only been diagnosed sooner instead of taking one doctor's opinion, I would have had one year of my life back.
Shirley Porter
20 Jul 2010, 11:27
Have severe swelling and pain in both hands,Dr. has stated I have gout, but symptons persist despite medications, After many tries, pain still persists.
I am taking colchicine,0.6 mg, and allopurinol, 100 mg.,plus prednisone,10mg, but it does nothing to alleviate symptoms.
Any guesses?

Bernadette
20 Jul 2010, 11:27
I too feel that I have not received the right diagnosis. I was told I had inflamatory osteo-arthritis. I always tested negative for RA.
So far I have 2 knee replacements, 1 shoulder replaced, (need the other done, but trying to hold off), arthritis cut out of my hand and carpel tunnel surgery. I suffer in pain and swelling every day, not always in the same place. I have seen several Rheumatologists and each says; "There is nothing I can do for you." I only take percocet every 4 hrs. for pain. I also have 3 stents and am on plavix etc. for my heart.
I also take Nexium for my stomach. I know I am limited as to what medicines I can mix with all these, but I just want to hear from someone that there is something else I can do. I even drag myself into work around 11 O"clock each day. Takes 4 hrs. to get going everyday! I really need a good doctor with dome good ideas on how to treat me and give me some relief.
Shirley Porter
20 Jul 2010, 11:24
Have severe swelling and pain in both hands,Dr. has stated I have gout, but symptons persist despite medications, After many tries, pain still persists.
I am taking colchicine,0.6 mg, and allopurinol, 100 mg., but it does nothing to alleviate symptoms.
Any guesses?

Ann
20 Jul 2010, 11:06
I have been thru the same things and was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I do not think this is my problem. I get stiff hands and fingers to where I can't do simple things. The more I use my hands the more pain. I sometimes have a burning sensation inside. My wrists will hurt and all my joints.I have had numerous steroid injections that only work for 2mos.. Should I insist on being checked by a rheumatologist?
Gloria
20 Jul 2010, 10:51
For twelve years I was diagnosed RA and no medication could help. It continued to get worse and worse. Finally,one day I was hospitalized and was dying, until a new doctor said that it was not RA but Lupus.
He treated this disease and now six years have passed, Lupus is in remission and I lead a completely normal and painless life. These are very sneaky diseases, they hide, in order to strike.













Adda Beets
20 Jul 2010, 10:36
It took awhile to diagnose my RA. I kept insisting that something was wrong. I new that Prednisone was the one medication that helped with my pain and stiffness. I am a nurse and need to use my hands alot and I am on my feet alot, so when my hands were so stiff I couldn't even cut something soft, I really persisted with my Dr. She checked for Lupus, performed lab tests, and multiple x-rays, which all came back negative. Then she sent me to a Rheumatologist, who also tried prednisone (upon my insistence). In January, the doctor ordered an anti-ccp test. It came back at 105. I was started on methotrexate, fish oil, b-complex and folic acid. I was so thrilled because this all started to work!! I could use my hands, and walk without alot of pain. With the using of 3000mg fish oil a day, my cholesterol decreased to normal levels. My PCP was surprised, because I am allergic to niaspan and statin drugs and aspirin, so I am very limited on what I can take. Multiple numerous good side effects of having a correct diagnosis. Kudos to my two doctors who really listened to me. I appreciate all their hard work. I hope others can find as good as Doctors as I have. If you need someone to write to, anyone can email me. I work nights, so I could write back when I can. God bless my doctors. I am almost normal again.
Nan
20 Jul 2010, 10:15
I, too, was misdiagnosed for many years. First it was called growing pains, then later carpal tunnel, arthritis and finally was diagnosed with lupus about 15 years ago by an alert PA. Referred to a rheumatologist, the diagnosis was confirmed. After treatment, no more wrist pain except when I get a flare. Although I've never been able to achieve remission, my life is more than tolerable. Have also been diagnosed with Hashimoto's and lupoid hepatitis, but those are mostly under control. I am very grateful to that PA and the super rheumatolist she referred me to.
Robin
20 Jul 2010, 10:06
I was misdiagnosed for years and was call a hypochondriac by my doctor and one day I got his associate and was barely walking and crying and stressed out because my husband was ill and he calmed me down asked me to come in ran ONE blood test and called me immediately with my diagnosis and appointment with the rheumatologist. I was overjoyed and pissed at the same time. I didn't have to go through issues like I did and the new doctor actually listened and didn't dismiss me as weird. I think all doctors should try this instead of treating symptoms and misadvising you. I wish mine did. I only kept my doctor because the rheumatologist suggested it to have access to the doctor that helped me out.

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