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Arthroscopic Knee Surgery Little Help for Arthritis

Study finds common procedure may not help painful knees

By Brenda Goodman

Arthroscopic knee surgery, the most commonly performed orthopaedic procedure in the United States, may be no better than medical or physical therapy for relieving chronic pain, according to the results of two studies published in the New England Journal of Medicine

Researchers at the University of Western Ontario randomly assigned 178 people with moderate to severe osteoarthritis of the knee to either arthroscopic surgery, where the inside of the joint is cleaned and smoothed with the aid of a pencil-sized camera, or to a combination of medications, supplements and physical therapy. After two years, both groups reported nearly the same levels of pain, stiffness and disability.

In addition to cleaning and smoothing the inside of the knee, arthroscopic knee surgery is commonly performed to repair tears to a wedge of cartilage in the joint called the meniscus. 

“What typically happens is that a doctor will get a patient with knee pain and give them an MRI [magnetic resonance imaging] scan, and they’ll find a meniscal tear,” said David T. Felson, MD, MPH, a rheumatologist with the Boston University School of Medicine.

But in a separate study in the same issue, Dr. Felson and his colleagues performed MRI scans on 991 people living in Framingham, Mass. They found that meniscal tears were common and often did not correspond to a patient’s pain.  In fact, 61 percent of people who had meniscal tears in their knees reported that they had no pain, aching or stiffness during the previous month.

"I think this shows pretty persuasively that arthroscopy does not benefit osteoarthritis of the knee," Dr. Felson said.

According to the National Center for Health Statistics, more than 650,000 arthroscopic lavage and debridement (cleaning and smoothing) procedures are performed for knee pain each year in the United States, at an average cost of $5,000 each.

"The joint becomes full of all kinds of junk – cartilage, degrading materials and little strands of stuff and tiny tears in the meniscus and shards of things that are sometimes attached to the tissue," Dr. Felson said. "And the thinking was that if you cleaned that up, it would help the pain," he added.

These studies were not the first to question knee surgery, arthritis and pain relief.

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Manny
23 Aug 2010, 16:27
I had arthroscopic surgery on my right knee in 2003 due to two tears in my menicus. I immediatley was able to go back top playing sports. Now I have a tear in my left knee along ith some floating junk which the doctor recommends for it to be cleaned out. I have been dealing with my left knee problem for two years (no strength, can't jog or jump, hard to climb ladder) but now it is starting to lock on me (sharp sudden pain on the inner part of the knee due to the tear). Now considering arthroscopic surgery so I can hopefully get back to doing activities I'm used to. But as with any surgery it may be worse afterwards as per all the testimony given here. What other options are there?
Judy
23 Aug 2010, 11:16
My experience is different than many of you. I had arthroscopic surgery on my right knee in nov. 2009 and my left knee in feb. 2010. I had a torn miniscus in each, a hairline fracture in the left knee, and had "junk" cleaned out. I am significantly better. The joint pain is diminished by about 75%. Yes, I would recommend surgery to others. I am not an ideal candidate, I am 62 and overweight and a cancer survivor. My knees will now probably last several more years before replacement is needed.
Ann
16 Aug 2010, 10:03
Here was me thinking I was alone in this!!
Had arthroscopy done 5 months ago in right knee, due to torn cartilage. The discomfort experienced before the op is nothing compared to what I have now. I can't bend my knee properly, can't kneel down on it at all. I also now walk with a limp which hurts my hip and lower back. Before the op I was also playing badminton twice a week, now it's a thought even to walk my two dogs for 10 minutes without having someone or something to support me. I've been back to the GP several times but they just keep saying it will get better and to take painkillers if it's bad. I'm only 47!

Would I have the procedure done again - a most definite NO!
nycole
14 Aug 2010, 13:04
I had arthroscopic surgery 3 months ago for torn cartildge, my pain is worse now than before,upon yesterday my doc said that the cartlidge under knee cap is worst, I have pain running down front of legs and behind leg and my lower back hurts from the limp.But my doctor is NOT listening to me i know that hes not gonna say ok i made a mistake or something like that i just want him to fix it.I havent returned to work yet thats a plus, except the bills keep coming on time.Just want to know what can be done to stop constant pain
Peggy W McKever
11 Aug 2010, 22:56
I had a artroscopy done on my left knee after a fall ,tore the meniscus in two places the pain was mild before the surgery now i cant even sllep at night for the stabbing pains in my knee and it runs down the front of my leg, the surgeon said I need to have a total knee replacement, but no insurance and very low income i need some advice on how I can receive some finNCIl ID FOR THIS SURGERY.
Lyle
10 Aug 2010, 18:28
I have now had 3 knee surgeries. The first one was after 3 years of severe pain due to Grade 2 Arthritis(All the cartilage under patella was like crab meat) and a meniscus tear, when I was 24 years of age . Surgery done wonders. 7 Years later Dr.'s thought Arthritis was back, but they found the joint lining was folded over and interior meniscus torn, so they clipped it out.Knee was great for another6 years.Dr told me I had Chodromalacia Patella.Nothing could be done. He said change career,go into anything you want but get out of kitchen ,as I am a chef.Bull#$@%. I had another arthroscopic and debridement. Feel great thus far.Good Luck all.
Anyone
05 Aug 2010, 21:13
Hey Cody what bullshit are you selling? Try reading the above posts before you recommend stupid info.
Janice
05 Aug 2010, 18:37
I had arthroscopic knee surgery 2 wks ago. I had fallen and hurt my knee. It was swollen so much I had to go to a dr. and was referred to an ortho dr. He done an MRI and said I had injured my meniscus and needed surgery. During the surgery nothing was injured but he found crystals in it that were arthritis, so he cleaned it out. I am in so much pain much more pain than before surgery. I cannot bend my knee now and I am going through PT. If there wasnt anything badly wrong with my knee I don't see why he recommended surgery. I could have lived with alittle arthritis. He should have seen this in the MRI. I'm so confused now about drs are they just out for the $? I'm 42 and my job requires me to stand and walk the whole time. I havent returned to work yet and the bills keep coming in. I'm at a lost to what to do now. I need my job, but my knee will not work right. Its still very painful and after reading here I wish I had refused the surgery and went in another direction. I will never have it done again, anything else would be better than how I feel now!!! Good luck to everyone who has had this. I feel for all of you.
Jeff
03 Aug 2010, 16:51
With no disrespect to all posters here, I feel the sum of all these comments are not representative of the population. Those with happy results are busy enjoying their lives.

I have been scoped on both knees. One 15 years ago just confirmed a minor acl tear; has been fine since. The other scope 6 years ago on an ACL repaired knee (from 1982), cleaned up some meniscus and removed the intense pain; been playing tennis again on it since. Arthritis extremely severe now, but self inflicted(?)

I question whether surgery will do anything for me at 53.
Liz
01 Aug 2010, 08:51
I had arthroscopic knee surgery 2 months ago for what I thought was one tear and turned out to be two. I have very bad arthritis and patella problems in the knee but I've had this since my 30s (I'm 52) and never had any problems except with stairs. My job requires me to stand and walk for hours. I am in worse pain then before and can't focus on anything else but the pain. I'm seeing my surgeon in a few days and am concerned he will tell me again that its my pain threshold. I was on celebrex for a month. I'm starting to have back problems because of how I walk and move, etc. I had PT for a month and am swimming daily as I was told to. I don't know what to do but am consideirng acupuncture. Why is the pain worse? It feels like I'm walking around with a 20 pound weight around my knee and pain is terrible on inside, behink knee and above the cap. Still paying off the bills.
Nathan
29 Jul 2010, 20:54
I had arthroscopic surgery on August 7, 2009. It is now July 29, 2010 and I still get on and off sharp pain in my knee. When will this heal? Is there anything I can do to fully recover. I have had months of therapy and a cortisone injection above the area of pain. Also I have some arthritis in back of the knee that was repaired (a small meniscus tear). I'm over 50 and was told that it could take up to a year to heal. About 2 months ago I had an MRI of the knee. The doctor said the changes shown in the MRI are consistent with normal changes after arthroscopic surgery.

At this point (nearly a year later) I need some help or perhaps treatment. Any suggestions or help here would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time in reading and perhaps answering my plea for help.

Nathan
Paul Gilliam
24 Jul 2010, 20:53
I am 57 yo and I have had 5 arthroscopic surgeries performed by 3 different surgeons over the years: 3 on my L knee, 2 on my R. It began in 1990 with a medial menicus tear. Later surgeries all were undertaken because of a suspected meniscal tear. All the doctors except the last one took it upon themselves to "help me out" by smoothing out my articular cartilage by burning it, first with a holmium laser, and later with a bi-polar RFE. Today, both my knees feel like they have tiny shards broken glass inside them. I can no longer do the things I used to do. I regret all those surgeries during which the orthopaedist burned up the inside of my knee.
My advice is if you have a meniscal tear that needs to be fixed, find a doctor who does not provide this harmful and ruination service of so-called articular smoothing, because, trust me, it will ruin your knees. I am considering sueing my last doctor because I am much worse off after the surgery than before.
Carol Greenwood
23 Jul 2010, 11:47
I had a fall injuring my knee but continued to walk on my leg for 2 1/2 months in pain and falling periodically for no reason. The doctor prescribed an MRI and a torn meniscus was diagnosed; I had arthoscopic surgery to repair the meniscus tear but still suffer knee pain two years after the surgery. The doctor said the pain is due to osteoarthritis not as a result from the surgery. I may have had arthritis before the surgery but I never had any pain until after the meniscus tear was performed. Did the surgery cause the osteoarthritis? Thank you. Carol
David L. Czupski
05 Jul 2010, 03:13
The cartilage on my knee is indeed totally worn off. Doing an arthroscopic debridment would have limited value if any. Although, since this is just a key hole procedure, my doctor wants to go in and clean it out. He also would also be adding a viscosupplementation (Synvisc) intra-articular injection after the procedure. My one problem is that the last time I had this procedure done my leg was infected. Because the cartilage came from chickens, not that of a human cadaver as they used the first time and it worked well. Is there a new type of treatment that uses different types besides that from animal livestock. I will be having these procedure done in Manila, Philippines next month
jessica
29 Jun 2010, 16:07
I am not having this surgery because of what iv read here. But the doctor says my cartalage will wear down if I dont and I cant bend my right knee to kneel or anything. Will this get better without surgery ? im am 29 years old and have 4 young children. I cant afford to be in more pain.
yogi
25 Jun 2010, 20:53
I just had my surgery on yesterday. They had to repair my menicus. Got up for the first time today on crutches. Pain is manageable. My only complaint is that they wrapped my leg, and it so tight until it hurts. I will be able to take the wrap off on Sunday and i can't wait.
I have been reading everyone's posting. I just hope everyone feels better soon.
I do have just one question. When did everyone go back to work after tthe surgery.
J. Williamson
16 Jun 2010, 23:36
I also had arthoscopic surgery on one knee and a month later, the other one. When the doctor opened the right one up, he said he never seen so much arthritis. That was the right one. They're both worst than ever than before I had the surgery. I fixing to go to a doctor where they give you injections called RIT.(rejuvenation injection therapy), prolotherapy. These injections induce the tiessues to release various growth factors to stimulate and promote tissue healing and strengthening.
There are no steriods used. Has been use over 75 years in Europe and the USA, but the insurance companies will not cover the cost of the procedure. We will see if this works. Don't know how much more pain I can endure. Check in your area about this.
murdoch macdonald
16 Jun 2010, 12:25
I was going to ask my doctor tomorrow to recommend me to a Orho specialist I am very hesitant after reading the over-whelming negatives to surgery.
I have RA but think I have "loose" cartilage or other problems in rt. knee.
What to Do?
Paul Butler
13 Jun 2010, 12:29
I had arthroscopic knee surgery last month. This has been followed up with physical therpy. The surgery repaired two tears to the miniscus and cleaning out a lot of junk.

Before the surgery doing marathons had become impossible [walk- don't run]. Actually walking up stairs without dragging my foot was not possible.

Yesterday I walked 3 miles and really did not have any pain. My goal is to do a marathon at the end of September.I will be 68 in September and only have two marathons planned before the year is over.

The overnight pain that existed before surgery is gone and I am now getting a full night of rest.

Carla
13 Jun 2010, 10:27
Well its 11 weeks now since my meniscal repair surgery and I am in absolute agony.

Before surgery I might have had some pain but WOW this is too much. My surgeon said wait and see 4 times to me in his surgery.

This is some kind of joke. I have been looking online and I cannot see a percentage of more than 4% of people who have benefited from this surgery. I have had to get married ON CRUTCHES how bad is that. I am in floods of tears this surgery has ruined my life.

Will never have it done again. Good luck to everyone x
Pat D
11 Jun 2010, 17:47
I think that I am the perfact example that
Arthroscopic knee surgery can make knee pain and Ostero Arthritis worse.
I had that surgery on my left knee and it took 2 years to get out of the pain it caused.
Since then I came under the care of a rheumatoligist who has given me injections of Euflexxor, every 6 months for the past year and a half, and it has worked miricles for me. I'm out of pain and able to walk 2 miles every day and do "line dancing" without any pain.
I would NEVER have authroscopic surgery on any knee again!
Mary Ann
11 Jun 2010, 01:03
I feel exactly like Judy does...In the mid-late 90's, I had two scopes for miniscus tears, in my right knee. I had played tennis, a lot, over the two years prior to the first surgery. In 2003, I decided enough was enough, and went to a sports medicine specialist. He recommended total knee replacement, in my right knee...It was done in early 2004, when I was just 51, and my recovery was the worst of all my surgeries (I'd had 15, of various kinds, from tonsillectomy, three C-sections, to having the large vein taken out, in both legs...Never had I had such a negative experience!!! I went five days a week, for three months, to physical therapy, to allow optimum healing...to no avail!!!

My newly-operated leg felt shorter than the left one, and steps/stairs have been a challenge (especially, going down) ever since. I can't walk long without hurting (now, I need the left knee done, too)...and I need the crutch of my grandbaby's stroller handle or a shopping cart, when I do walk for any amount of time.

Like many of the above people who commented, I, too, fear having surgery on the other leg, for the possibility (or probability, in my case...diabetic, with many circulatory issues, take a baby aspirin every day) of blood clots. My friend lost her mom, at 53, three days after elective surgery, to a blood clot that travelled to her brain.

I take three Advil Liqui-Gels every morning (the earlier the better, for effectiveness), and I purchased expensive, orthotic shoes (Z-Coils are good, too). Any analgesic roll-ons, like Bio Freeze and Capzacin are temporary comforts, that help...and don't forget the ice and heat packs (I like the corn bags, that you can microwave)!!

Good luck, I am there with you!!!
Barbara
10 Jun 2010, 17:35
I had Arthroscopic surgery exactly 1 Year ago.
I thought I was doing good, but I stand a lot at work well its June now and I am in so much Pain from all the standing, I come home so tired and rest each night with Hot or cold packs which ever works better. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis. Need to Have Knee Replacement soon. just the thought of it!!!!
kathy
10 Jun 2010, 15:11
I have osteoarthritis, torn ligaments and cartilage problems in my right knee. I was advised by my orthopedic surgeon to have arthroscopic surgery, yet my rheumatologist said not to have this procedure done. I also have severe fibromyalgia and do not know if this is playing a part in the horrible pain.I am caught between a rock and a hard place like so many others. Does anyone else with knee problems who were advised to get them scoped also have fibromyalgia? I would like to know if anyone else can relate. Thank You.
Judy
10 Jun 2010, 12:51
I've had arthroscopic surgery on both knees for torn meniscus cartilage, one in 1996 and the other in 2000. My recovery went okay both times. After the doctor told me I was able to do it, I did a lot of power and regular walking in the years after they healed. My theory is that since cartilage was removed, I had less cartilage in each knee to absorb shock and it wore out sooner. None of my doctors were willing to agree with this but by 2008, I was bone on bone in both knees. I was told I was too old (over 50) for consideration to be given to artifical or cadaver cartilage for replacement and my only option was knee replacement. Since I could hardly walk, I agreed to replacement of the worst knee. Although I recovered quickly from other surgeries, it was not the case this time. Although the replacement knee is fully functional, there still is some pain and stiffness and I will not undergo the replacement of the other knee.
Jackie
07 Jun 2010, 03:12
I feel sorry to hear so many unhappy stories about knee arthroscopy. But luckily enough my story is a happy one.

I too had knee arthroscopy for a medial tear in my left knee, which was caused by running. I had surgery just over six weeks ago. My knee feels better than it ever has. I a running again as well, if not better than I was before. The surgery was painless. I made sure I did everything I was supposed to. I did all the exercises I was told to. I do think that surgery is very diffent for all types of people. I think the fitter you are before the surgery. The quicker you recover. I hope everyone who has had surgery feels great again very soon.
Marylin
22 May 2010, 16:06
I had arthroscopic surgery approx 4yrs ago, and over the past six months i have started having pain running down my right leg to the top of my foot. This has been off and on now waking me up at night. I am hoping cortisone shots will help because i am not going to have another surgery.
Erv
20 May 2010, 22:12
I had water removed from my left knee two years ago. At that time the doc said I need surgery and I said no. I went back to the doc in March for water on the knee again and he said it needs fixed. Don't know what I was thinking but I said I trust you. When I awoke from surgery the Doc told me it was real bad and that the next time I'm looking at a partial. I too just returned to work this week. Seven weeks after surgery I am in pain when prior to surgery I never was barring when I got the water again. At 37 and very much active I have been very depressed the last two days. Hold me Jesus
marilynn
18 May 2010, 13:41
I am in tears after reading this...tears of relief and frustration. Relief?...knowing I'm not alone...frustration? ...because it's now 3 months after right knee arthroscopy and I hurt worse than I did going in....sometimes it seems better, but mostly I am in great pain...docs look at me like I'm an addict when i ask for more pain meds...I am not doing surgery again because i think it made my arthritis worst...(my prior diagnosis was mild arthritis...hah!) I am losing weight, not over-doing it and using ice, etc...so why the constatnt pain, swelling and stiffness?

I am so tired of this, but hate to be whining...jeez.
cassie
17 May 2010, 14:23
I had arthroscopic knee surgery on both my knees 6 weeks ago and my left knee is worse than it was before and my right knee hurts from putting all my weight on that one. Mind you I am only 27 and I went back to work yesterday and had to leave early today because its a constant pain. My work wants me to go on disability?? going to doctor today
MopsyMaid
14 May 2010, 07:09
It is up to each person to decide. ME? Not on your life will I go thru arthoscopic/knee surgery again. WHY? I am scard of infection and a blood clot killing me. I had arthoscopic in 2000 for rt knee torn Medial meniscus. It took forever for the pain to leave and I developed a Baker's cyst which I still have today. I was in arobic water therapy and PT for months and finally said no more. The knee took almost 2 years to feel somewhat better. Yes, I baby the knee and make sure I do not injure it. Well, I did injure it again with a fall, 4 weeks ago. MRI shows a Medial meniscus tear in same knee. Now, in 2000 they removed 40% of that tear. Doc gave me a cortisone shot the other day and said arthoscpic clean-up in a month's time....I don't think so. You cannot remove more of an already compromised knee. There will be nothing left to clean out and I do not want a new knee. I lost 2 friends to knee surgery. One 50 year old to hospital infection and another one to a blood clot one week after knee surgery. Knee, Hip and Pelvic surgery are the areas that are most prone to developing blood clots. I am now 68 years old.
Heidi Farr
13 May 2010, 08:37
I had arthroscopic surgery on my knee April 2. I had a torn meniscus due to car accident. The sugery was quick and not alot of pain, but it took me atleast a month or so to bebale to do basic things like standing for more than 5 minutes without my knee feeling some discomfort. I have gone to physical therapy 12 times now and it is feeling alot better not normal just better! My insurance would be willing to pay someone to come to my home and help out with daily needs like the cooking, laundry, vaccuum, changing bedding etc. My doctor said no, I asked for reasonable help because I could not do those basic things. I have a 16 year old daughter and a soon to be ex-husband in the house, who does nothing except make more work for me! I needed help for the first week and several times during the month of April at $20.00 per day. Who are you going to help you for $20.00 a day except family? I mean vaccuum one day and do laundry another! How does my doctor have the right to tell me I didnt need help through out the month of April. I do not have the luxury of a cleaning lady but I do have a large home! I wonder how much my surgeons wife pays his cleaning lady while shes at the mall shopping and spending the money he gets from doing all the surgeries? All of a sudden doctors are trying to save the insurance companies any unnecessay expenses! Give me a break!
lou hebert
30 Apr 2010, 08:33
I had my left knee scoped two weeks ago for a meniscus tear I suffered at work back in January. I wish I could be one of the happy success stories, but I am not. I am 60 and still experiencing considerable pain. It seemed that everything was going well after the surgery, but then four days later, I developed two blood clots in my left calf. Now I have the added burden and anxiety of a potential pulmonary embolism to deal with. I am now on a cocktail of cuomadin and pain killers and the knee keeps filling with fluid and blood, which I have been getting drained off to relieve the pressure. My doc keep telling me this will all be history very soon, but in the meantime, I just stay glued to the recliner and wait it out.

lou
Marilyn G.
30 Apr 2010, 01:22
Three months ago I tore the meniscus in my left knee in two places while lifting heavy things out of the car trunk. I had to resort to wearing a brace on that knee when up and walking, shopping, and just doing small things around the house. It felt unsteady and made a loud popping noise, plus it was tender. I had a MRI done the end of March 2010, showing the two tears. Surgery was scheduled and on April 13, 2010 I had arthroscopic surgery done under general anesthesia. I was awake within 1 and 1/2 hours, and home in the middle of the afternoon. I never felt one bit of pain! I did not take any pain meds, did not have to use crutches or a walker, and resumed full use of it within 24 hours. The day after surgery I was walking unaided, working in my garden, able to go up and down stairs and still had no pain. On the 28th I returned to see the surgeon and got the stitches taken out. He said as long as I continued to walk and not baby the leg I would do well and did not need physical therapy. The only thing I did following surgery was to elevate that leg while resting and I put ice on it the first two days. I was very scared of this surgery, but it went perfectly and I have never any pain or discomfort since that day. This surgery was done at SIU School of Medicine in Springfield, IL, by Dr. Khaled Saleh.
Daisy
20 Apr 2010, 12:01
I fell on my job in October 2009. I attended the Dr. and Physical Therapy from December up until now. Also I have seen an Orthopedic physician, I can say as long as I am taking the celebrex it helps. I can stop taking them within four days the pain is back again. I had a MRI ( partial tear in rotatory cuff) This is very painful. I cannot use a broom to sweep my floor. I am not sure if I am hurting because of osteoarthritis or what. I hurt.The Othopedic physician mention athroscopis surgery. I don't know what to do. Most of my pain is between my shoulder and elbow, even sometime my neck hurt. Please give me some advice. Thanks.
Annie
15 Apr 2010, 14:21
I have had laparoscopic knee surgery performed on both knees 5 times over many years. First, at age 24 for a left badly torn lateral meniscus from an acute sports related injury(there was some ACL damage but not repaired). I had great results and returned within a year to a fully active lifestyle.The right knee was injured in a trip/fall at the age of 30 resulted in torn medial and lateral meniscus,a torn anterior and lateral collateral ligaments, and of couse fluid collection in the joint. A longer recovery period after laparoscopic surgery but again, excellent results.When my left knee began to get painful and swollen at age 42, an MRI revealed "moderate premature osteoatrthritis", with fluid accumulation in both knees, the L > than R. Laparoscopic surgery for cleaning smoothing and fluid removal was done on the left. A year later, the same on the R. Both with excellent return to pain free function within a short time. I am now 56 and other than an occassional over use soreness, I have had 14 years painfree and with good function. So, while this study reports a negative view of laparoscopic treatment for osteoarthritis, I hope this doesnt remove it as a patient choice becuase clearly SOME of us do have very good long term benefit.
Carla
13 Apr 2010, 01:40
I had arthroscopic surgery 2 1/2 weeks ago.

I had torn cartilage and arthritis. I am in much more pain now than before. Before the surgery In had pain just at one side of my knee, now its at both sides and around the back of my knee. I feel totally let down by my surgeon, I know they cant work miracles, but since looking on the internet for answers I have come across so many people who have had this procedure and are in more pain now than before. I have always been quiet when I am in his office I go see hem in a couple of months and beleive me when I go I will be letting him have it!!!!!
John
12 Apr 2010, 19:10
I had arthroscopic surgery on my left knee in Sept 2009. The surgery went well and I was back to work in a week. I felt pretty good overall but I was cautious not to go full speed. I was simplying walking in my kitchen around Christmas and felt a twinge followed by a sharp pain. The next two weeks the knee was swollen and sore and I was limpping. I got a cortisone shot and a few weeks later things were ok. But then in March I once again felt a twinge this time while raking grass, noting too streuous. Two more weeks of a swollen knee and throbbing pain. I had my knee drained and another cortisone shot. I need another MRI because to see what's going on in the knee. I'm getting very frustrated. At 39 years old I am dreading the possibility of a knee replacement in the near future.
Nathan Enyart
08 Mar 2010, 04:26
I had knee surgery in 1993 on my right knee.
Messed it up on a structure fire. a year later had the left one done Horse took care of it for me. Now my right knee is so painful most of the time. On the outside of the knee right beside the knee cap I get a big knot when the swelling happens this puts me in very severe pain. When the knot is not there it is not so bad. I am getting ready to get back on a Fire Dept. So I have to do something.
Shirley Ann
28 Feb 2010, 19:59
Dear folks. First time I post anything.I am greatful I've read your comments.I'm 58. For the past 3 years, my left knee swells on and off especially after a fall or a stretch. It also swells after I lift somewhat heavy.Innitially came from an injury.Have little to no pain(thank God!)but stiffness and swelling.I had a meniscus tear on my right kenee in my 20's. Was sent to surgery by many, but instead I rested (about 1 month) did a lot of physio therapy. Suffered on and off about 1 year. The knee is perfect now.I believe that in my 50's the healing will not occur the same way, but I'll lose some weight,change my diet, give up skying for good, wear a good brace and do some therapy again.I'll post hwo I feel in about three months. Good Cheer! God Bless!
Lisa Nevels
22 Feb 2010, 22:59
I had arthrosopic surgery nearly 7 years ago too remove bad cartilage in my right knee. The surgery went fine and in 3 or 4 days I was walking with some pain. I had arthritis in the right knee. On some pain medication but still unable when knee gets tired to go up stairs. In the morning the knee is stiff and I will usually get an ice-pack and put on it for at least 20 minutes before attempting to walk. I will not have it again because I probably will not be able to walk. The right knee does not bend like the left knee does. I am 56 years old. I will not do it again.
Cyndi
14 Feb 2010, 00:34
I wish I read some of the comments on here earlier.
I had my right knee scoped in December 8 weeks now, still bothering me.
Found out that I have arthritis, whippee! No real surprise though...sports and age, what are you to do?
Anyways, I just had my left knee done, it's 6 days post op and I still can hardly walk. When the right knee was done, I got an infection, I thought this delayed the recovery, but now with the left and it's definitely taking longer to get out of bed , I'm wishing I didn't go through with the surgery.
I had the left done about 8 yrs ago, remember it too was very painful afterwards, but eventually the pain went away and I felt better than ever. This time, not so sure what the out come is going to be...?
Still can't bend the right knee fully, still difficult going up and down stairs (before this recent surgery on my left) there was no way in.....that I could kneel on it.
Now I lie here praying for the throbbing to stop!
Did I make a mistake? I hope not. I have to believe that all will be better soon, better than before would be nice.
But I am scared, that this might of been the biggest mistake, any body have a similar outcome?
I think from now on, if I have knee pain, I try for a cortisone shot vs. surgery.
If you have arthritis, the knee will probably never fully recover.
The joy of getting older. yeah!
Angela
28 Jan 2010, 23:05
I began with sore knees. I had arthroscopic surgery four months ago on both knees at the same time which I regret. X ray before surgery was "normal," no signs of arthritis. After the surgery, now I have osteoarthritis in both knees because, in cleaning away the "junk," the surgeon cut the cartilage. In removing it along with the junk, the bones now rub together causing Arthritis. When I walk, both knees snap, pop, click, and crack causing much more pain than I ever began with and now they want to do full or partial knee surgery which requires metal and plastic. If you've pain in your knees, try cortisone shots instead of a surgery which most people will tell you won't do anything but exacerbate your problem.
Gloria Cuellar
19 Jan 2010, 06:06
I also had arthroscopic surgery 8 weeks ago and my knee is worse now than it was before the surgery.The reason I had the surgery was because of torn ligaments according to the doctor. He told me that I had very little arthritis if any. I can not do anything without pain medication,I just don't know what to do.
stacy
10 Dec 2009, 23:17
I am 31. I have fallen several times. The worse was a little while ago, I don't remember it, but wound up on the concrete garage floor, On both knees. My hands weren't hurt, they didn't really catch me. I was temp paralized in that position. I couldn't walk for days. I then fell again in the yard with my kids. I decided to have the surgery. first the right, then the left. I was walking without the use of anything within a week with the right. I am now 4wks out with my left & I can barely walk at times. They said my right was torn & the left was Plica syndrome. I have been in therapy now for 3wks. My bend is better, but I still have a 5degree bend, a walk with a severe limp.
I have mixed emotions, the right did so well. My left however is worse than before. The pain is unbearable at times & I can't get up from sitting easily.
I have 2 young children, making it hard for me to do things with them.
I have to return to work where I am on my feet constantly, I don't sit a minute literally.
I think I would definetely do more research before having anything like this done again.
Marie
01 Dec 2009, 13:25
I had arthroscopic surgery 8 weeks ago and am much worse off than before. I have more pain and walk with a serious limp, even if I use a cane. I would say it depends on age and the reason for the surgery. If you are under 35 you are probably a better candidate than if you are older. I would not do my surgery again and I had the same knee scoped 25 years ago and was back to normal in a few days.
Dawn
13 Oct 2009, 18:49
I had meniscus repair 6 weeks ago too and I am in more pain than when I started. I don't think I would do it again.
pete
13 Oct 2009, 16:10
I had arthroscpic surgery 6 weeks ago and i have worse pain todaya1 i would think twice before doing it again
Sue Moss
11 Oct 2009, 07:58
I had arthroscopic surgery about 6 years ago for arthritis in my right knee. It worked so well after a while I forgot which knee I had surgery on. Five days ago I had surgery on my left knee for the same problem and I fully expect the same results. I think the results depend on each individuals condition and the procedure is worth trying.
Barbara
02 Jul 2009, 09:30
I had arthroscopic surgery 6 days ago to remove the "cruchies" in my knee and also to trim a torn meniscus.
Before my surgery I had a 10 degree bend in my knee and three days after the surgery I had a 2 degree bend. That alone is enough for me to rcommend the surgery. I will walk straighter and without a limp for the first time in several years.
I'm still healing and a little sore but hopeful for a relief in knee pain for the first time in years.
kristi
17 Jun 2009, 23:20
I had arthroscopic surgery to replace my ACL and 2 other ligaments as well that I tore Monday; it's only my second day home and I can already tell you that my leg feels better. Yes I know I'm on pain medicine, but it hurts less walking with just having surgery than it did when I was walking without it. If your dr. recommends it, I suggest you get it. My Dr. also found that he needed to clean up some torn cartilage while he was in there. It helps. It'll be painful for a while but from what I can tell now--totally worth it.
http://igotnewpartsinmyknee.blogspot.com
shelia jenkins
12 Jun 2009, 15:25
I had arthroscopic surgery 3 years agoand my knee is worse now than it was before the surgery. I have been to five ortho. doctors's
none of them can tell me what's wrong. I was referred to sa specialist just a few weeks ago. Hopefully, he has an answer for me. I'm
also needing surgery again.
Cody
05 Jun 2009, 09:23
i had the arthroscopic surgery 2 weeks ago and my knee has been feeling much better anyone who thinks they need the surgery and their doctor recomends the surgery i would recomend you to go with the procedure

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