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Are NSAIDs Enough?

Q: I was recently diagnosed with arthritis by my family doctor, who prescribed an NSAID for me. I have heard that there are all kinds of new arthritis treatments, including something called biologics. Do you think NSAIDs are enough to help me? 

A: I wonder if your doctor told you which form of arthritis you have. Although we casually use the term arthritis to refer to one of many different conditions, arthritis (literally meaning "joint inflammation") is really more a symptom than a disease itself. 

Joint involvement can occur in more than 100 different diseases, including osteoarthritis (OA), rheumatoid arthritis (RA), lupus, ankylosing spondylitis and gout, just to name a few. Treatment depends on the form of arthritis or related disease, and the sooner you discover which form you have and begin appropriate treatment, the better you will do in the long run.

The drug your doctor prescribed is just one of many of a class called nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). These drugs work by limiting the body's production of hormone-like substances called prostaglandins, which are involved in causing inflammation (which, over time, can lead to joint destruction) and pain. 

For many arthritis-related diseases NSAIDs provide some symptomatic relief and therefore can be an important part of a treatment plan. But for many types of arthritis, NSAIDs should not be the sole medical treatment. Some doctors, unfortunately, don't realize this.

If you have RA, for example, you will benefit from more powerful drugs early on. Not too many years ago, most doctors – even those highly experienced in treating arthritis – used NSAIDs as the first line of treatment against RA. They might have used a number of different NSAIDs over several years. When it became obvious that the disease was progressing and causing joint damage, the doctor would then start a disease-modifying drug such as gold.

Now we know that most of the joint damage of RA occurs within the first two to three years. So it's important to control the inflammation affecting the joints before they are damaged. NSAIDs won't do that. 

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patty
12 Mar 2010, 07:23
My doctor just starting me on Cimzia,has anyone had experience with this injection?
Annette
28 Dec 2009, 22:24
Happy Holidays everyone!
The main thing with the RA and OA that I am dealing with is trying to have a positive attitude. We cannot let this bring us down. When I look beyond my own situation I see so many people in worse situations so we all need to be bigger than the problem. I was diagnosed about 4 years ago at the Mayo with both RA and OA. My local Doctors couldn't determine what was wrong with me because the sed rate test always came back neg for RA.
After much pain, not being able to walk, 2 trips to the ER I was sent to the Mayo and finally diagnosed with both RA and OA. I am currently on 8 methotrexiates per week, 400 plaquinal per day, and cymbalta. I was on prednizone as well until about a month ago when I finally got off it. I live in Minnesota so unfortunately the cold weather seems to be a bother for me so I think I need to go south for the winters.

God bless all of you and keep a positive attitude!
Annette



























Phyllis
17 Dec 2009, 15:26
I was wondering what to do when you have stopped seeing your rheumatologist because of personality differences and there is no other rheumatologist in your area.I still see my Family Dr. but I am afraid he is just that, a Family Dr.
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12 Dec 2009, 12:37
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Gary
05 Dec 2009, 06:24
I have had RA for just over a year. In November of 2008 I went to a Dr. of Rheumatology. After seeing him for about 10 months I have changed doctors. My first Doctor took no xrays, did not give me good answers to my questions, did not seem concerned about some of my issues and I had serious doubts about his qualifications. I feel now that I have a very good Doctor. He has addressed all of my issues and I will see him for the second time next week.
RA is my problem,I decided that if I would not recommend my Doctor to family or friends, then I am going to the wrong Doctor.
Marsha
02 Dec 2009, 13:04
I have had RA for 4 years now. My Dr. started me on a low dose of methotrexate and cleebrexe. He didnt even do a hand x ray whcih was sort of confusing for me since my Regular Doctor(Internist) said it was a muct! Oh well I was all the way up to 10 pills once a week of the methotrexate and at one point did for a summer prednisone which I am well off of. I now take 6 methotrexate and celebrex only when needed which I will say may be 3 times a week and I now take Humaria shots every two weeks which is a very good improvement. I am going to switch to a new Rheumetologist in February. He's a younger doctor who is up on all the lateset and greatest things so we shall see if things improve. I am not bad right now just get achey sometimes so things are doing good! But I think I should have gotten away from this other doctor whom I will be leaving a while ago. Live and learn I just hope I didnt learn to late!
Margie
02 Dec 2009, 11:58
I have had RA for the last 30yrs., is was 23yrs old when i was diagnoised, which was back in the mid 70's and back then it was ecotrin and prednisone, I have the ra in every joint of my body, i have tried gold, i tried experienmental testing, like phrese something or other,this is when they take your blood out from one arm and put it through a freezing process and return it through to the other arm,let me tell you i would be the ginny pig for whatever they had going i hated being in pain 24/7! I guess i just got so use to being in pain i had to learn to deal with it, i woke up in pain and went to bed in pain it just never went away, i was angry all the time and to top things off i just went thru a divorce and had a active 5yr boy, I was angry i could not play with him or lift him it just hurt too much! But i just went with the flow of things i had not choice and many many medications that tore my stomach up so much that i had internal bleeding and lost 3 pints the first time the second time 2, I was constantly in and out of the hospital. I hade had 1 knee replacement,1 hip replacement,1 hip revision,c1&32 replacement and i need my other knee replaced. But there is light at the end of the tunnel, one day i was watching good morning america and Dr. Nancy Schniederman(think thats her last name) was taking about a breakthrough for rheumatoid arthritis so of course i perked up, it was the remicade well i got on the phone asap with my rheumatologists he looked into it further and i was his first patient doing this, It was a miracle let me tell you it was a godsend, after two treatments i woke up one morning with a spring in my step i was like oh &*%$ I do not have pain i got out of bed and it did not hurt i was in tears,i could make my bed up and hold a cup of coffee like a normal person,i could plant flowers OMG it was a new life for me all over, but then as they say all good things come to an end, it stopped working after 7yrs of treatment, i tried the orencia and nothing went back to the remicade to see if it would kick in again and nothing so now i am on rituxan i do get some releif but nothing like when i was on the remicade so now when i have pain im like a baby because for so long that i without it and now to have it again i just hate it, but i keep telling myself there will be something new., oh i have a question i never heard of kadian does this help with the inflamation or pain?
Debbie
02 Dec 2009, 08:48
I also would like to learn more about psoriatic arthritis and spondylitis. I have both and have recently had surgery, it seems to be better and have less pain. I've been told that they are related, is it?
Mary
01 Dec 2009, 22:14
I would like to see more articles on psoriatic arthritis. Thank you for all I have read.
Kathy
01 Dec 2009, 21:45
There are also people (up to 20%) with sero-negative systemic lupus. That means all the blood tests are negative, but you have all the symptoms and problems. So be persistent in seeking treatment and persistent if the first meds tried don't work. There are lots of medicines to try. Never give up hope! Find a support group if you can to connect with others with arthritis and make friends.
barbara m martens
01 Dec 2009, 20:26
I HAVE RA FOR 15 YEARS I TRIED EVERYTHING. I AM ON ORENCIA,BEEN ON IT ALMOST A YEAR. LET ME TELL YOU ALL I DO SEE THERE IS HOPE.I GET ORENCIA ONCE A MONTH.I ONLY SEE A RA DOCTOR NOT FAMILY DR. I SEEN HER 10YRS.
Kim Pelfrey
01 Dec 2009, 19:42
My son is four years old and was diagnosed with systemic onset JRA two and a half years ago. He is maintained on NSAIDS. We have tried twice to take him off but the symptoms returned quickly. My concern is having been in pain for so much of his life does he even realize when he is not in pain? We will be seeing his Dr. on Saturday so thanks for all the valuable info that I can ask questions about. I hope you all have a healthy Holiday!!
Karen
01 Dec 2009, 17:57
I was diagnosed with OA 4 years ago. I have pain every day. My doctors want to give me narcotics but I work in the medical field ( Pediatric Nurse Practitioner) and I don't feel comfortable prescribing and treating patients while on pain meds. I take 17 pills a day including prescription NSAIDS without much relief. I have had 2 epidurals but the arthritis is in my hands, back, knees and shoulder. I am progressing fast and I am only in my 40's. Very discouraging.
Melissa
01 Dec 2009, 14:22
I have had RA since I was 9 years old, I am now 39. I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my spine/both my knees and disc degenerative disease in 2004. I was given this and that etc.
It was too late for me for any surgeries, did the physical therapy, did the tens unit blah blah. Finally I was referred to a pain management/spine specialist. He tried me on a few things (tens unit, celebrex etc). But like Maureen, he is very compassionate. He prescribed Kadian. I've been on it for a year now and boy has my life never been better. I also have Fiborymaglia and with Kadian and the Lyrica, they both work hand in hand and really help me with all of my pain. If I miss one or the other or both I feel it and pay the price. So yes, like Maureen said, talk to your doctor and hopefully you all will find a compassionate doctor that actually cares. Mine wants me off all drugs if possible. I am looking into doing that spinal stimulator, I did the trial period and it worked out great, but what is holding me back now is the possibility of having MS. So ask your doctor about Kadian. It really helps me.
Lucy Herring
01 Dec 2009, 13:58
I'm 75..going near to 76...and have suffered violently/severely at times to being bedfast...since 10 years of age. WAS TOLD AT AGE 10...I HAD A "TOUCH OF RHEUMATISM"...NO MEDS WERE GIVEN.....ASPIRIN FOR PAIN WHICH DID 0...SO I CONTINUED TO SUFFER TILL AGE 15...THEN THE DRS. DIAGNOSED STREP...AND I GOT SOME PENICILLIN..THAT HELPED....BUT NEVER HAD A CONTINUING LOW DOSE....SO AGAIN EXTREME PAIN IN ARMS, KNEES, HEAD, NECK. IN THE EARLY 70S..WAS TOLD I HAD RHEUMATIOD A., THEN IN EARLY 80S WAS TOLD I'D HAD A MILD CASE OF POLIO AS A CHILD...AND IN THAT TIME FRAME((80S))) WAS TOLD I ALSO HAD OSTEO...AND IN 2003 HAD DEVELOPED DEGENERATIVE DISC DISEASE ALL THROUGH MY SPINE. I REFUSED SURGERY..AND USED PAIN PATCHES...HELPED ..AND I DID 6 WKS OF THERAPY..HELPED..AND I CONTINUE TO WORK OUT IN OUR YMCA....1 YR. LATER WAS READY FOR SURGERY BUT TOK A BAD FALL AND SHATTERED ALL MY DSC!!!...SO SURGERY WAS OUT..SO I HAVE BEEN USING THE "TENS UNIT" SINCE....ANDI ALTERNATE DAYS OF THE LIDODERM PATCHES WITH DARVOCET N100. THE MAIN KEY IS TO KEEP MOVING.
Stan
01 Dec 2009, 13:43
I have OA and have had for several years. I am on the generic form of Relefin (Spelling??). When the weather changes to colder it does not do much at all for me. Most days it takes the edge off of the pain but never really makes it comfortable.
Michael
01 Dec 2009, 13:17
I have RA, Gout, and degenerative arthritis in both my hips and my spine. I take Methotrexate injections weekly, I am on a drug study to make Orencia a weekly injectable (so I have that), I take Alopurinol, Vicodin, and Nabumetone (nsaid). For the most part my RA and Gout are now under control, but my degenerative still hurts at times beyond any medicine. Prednisone caused weight gain and the Nabumetone tears my stomach up, so I have cut myself back on it to a prn drug and only take the Vicodin at night, so I can sleep. Besides that I have made the decision that dealing with the pain is a better alternative for me, then the stomach pains the medicine delivers...that is until the pain becomes too much, then I have to switch my thought processes temporarily.
Hip replacement is out of the question at this point, as well as I am uninsured and am "uninsurable" due to the RA. Thank goodness for the drug study which gives me a doctor and the Orencia. For those with the same issue, you might want to look into these studies.
Maureen
01 Dec 2009, 11:30
I am so sorry that most of U arthritis sufferers are in such pain. I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis several years ago and the Doc gave me NASIDS that ruined my stomach and did not relieve my pain in any way. Same for steriods that did nothing except make my bones more brittle than they already were. I finally found a kind and compassionate pain doctor who prescribed Kadian, (time released morphine) and Hydrocodine. I have been taking these meds for 3 years now and what an improvement in my life !!! I will be on these meds for the rest of my life. There is no turning back. But the benifits outweigh the side effects. My Kadian and Hydro are now given to me once a month by my general practioner. Please talk to your Docs about these meds. I can live a whole lot better life now. No one has to suffer anymore. Its just some Docs dont want to give narcotics and its a dammed shame because all of U are suffering so bad. Ask about it. My heart goes out to all of U.
Jamie
01 Dec 2009, 11:05
I have RA also,I've had it for almost 7years i'm guessing. I do take orencia every 4 weeks and i do take a pain pill. i've tried other otc meds,advil,aleeve,arthiritis tylenol,motrin,doc's prescribe other meds that don't work. so we just live with the pain,because nothing really works.
Holly
01 Dec 2009, 10:59
Katie, I am sorry you had such a bad experience with PT but please don't write all of us off! I am a PT with psoriatic arthritis and it has taken months for me to get my symptoms under control. Maybe I am more "tuned in" than others to the difficulties of people who have arthritis, since my father-in-law had severe RA. Just like MDs, you need to find a PT who will listen to you and help you learn to cope. We can't cure this but we can help you learn how to deal with the symptoms and improve your function. Good luck to you!
carolyn
01 Dec 2009, 10:57
I take Meloxicam for OA. Have been on it for six months. It really helps a lot, but be prepared for weight gain. It some how increases appitite. If you don't watch yourself, you can eat all day!Also makes you thirsty, which is good, but because of the weight gaain, I only take it when the knee and leg pain are severe.
katie
01 Dec 2009, 09:54
I have severe osteoarthritis in my spine. When I was first diagnosed, it was not severe but I had alignment problems and was recommended to physical therapy. All three of my physical therapists did a poor job of evaluating me and were dismissive of patient and provider information and so now, here I am, with severe osteoarthritis due to mismanagement. I basically needed a degree in physical therapy to know that these people were doing a bad job. I would like you to write an article or somehow draw attention to the roll p.t.'s play. This is very sad. My provider and I kept trying to figure out why by body wasne't responding, getting worse with so much effort. physical therapists seem to lack accountability to the patient and the provider...they are in their own little world and the patient and provider are to trust that they will follow instructions...I've found them to be the worst listeners and the most dismissive providers within the medical community. Shameful!
BJ
01 Dec 2009, 09:43
OH! It's called Seronegative Rheumatoid Arthritis, by the way! Best of luck to you both.
BJ
01 Dec 2009, 09:41
Jane and Catherine, don't give up! I had the same symptoms as you both and then some and yet my tests for RA always came up negative. The doctors acted as if I were crazy, my job didn't understand my missing work at all, especially without a firm diagnosis, and my family thought I was exaggerating the pain I was experiencing. I FINALLY found a rheumy who did a very thorough (4 hours of tests & xrays) and confirmed through other blood tests that I had a pretty severe case of RA. There is more than one test for RA, yet they don't seem to try them. Anyway, I suffered for 10 long years for no good reason, but now I feel so much better with treatment!
Ginny
01 Dec 2009, 09:31
Try adding fish oil to whatever your taking. It takes about 3weeks but the difference is amazing. I happen to take 4 fish oil,borage, and flax seed (all in one jell cap) a day and it amazing. It takes the joint sorness away.
Jeanette Hardman
18 Aug 2009, 15:58
I have OA in both of my knees. In seeing an Ortheopedic doctor he says the only thing that will really help my knees is surgery. I have been taking ibuprophen for the pain. My question is that it really doesn't seem to help like it used to. What is the difference in some of the over the counter NSAIDS and the prescription NSAIDS? My doctor told me if I could tolerate ibuprophen then I could increase what I am already taking. I have been taking 3 every morning. He says I can take up to 9 for a total for the day. I am very scared to be taking so much ibuprophen? How safe is it as opposed to a prescription drug or arthritis pain? Thank You.
Catherine
03 May 2009, 14:05
Like Jane above my blood tests are all negative and I have pain which is the same on bothe sides of my body. I have a lot of heat and redness in my hands and wrists and knees and ankles as well as stiffness and pain. Trouble is not always visible when I go up to the rhuematologist and it can flare up at any time and last days, hours or weeks then settle and travel from joint to joint.
JOHN LASLEY
22 Apr 2009, 17:07
I HAD NECK SURGERY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND OVERALL IT WAS SUCCESSFUL. HOWEVER, WITHIN THE PAST 3-4 MONTHS, I HAVE SEVERE STIFFNESS AND PAIN IN THE MORNINGS. MY SURGEON PUT ME ON MELOXICAM AND IT SEEMS TO HELP SOME WHAT. I AM ALSO TAKING OVER THE COUNTER NAPROXEN. WILL THE COMBINATION OF BOTH CAUSE ANY SERIOUS DAMAGE. ALL THERE ANY TEST THAT CAN BE DONE TO DETERMINE THE TYPE OF ARTHRITIS THAT I HAVE.
sheila prejean
20 Apr 2009, 21:50
I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis 11 years ago. I have found that it has progressively gotten worse over the years. It is at the point now where pain killers and anti inflamatory drugs are no longer working.
At the time of diagnoses I was 30 years old and the doctors felt I was too young for a hip replacement. It appears as though it is moving throughout my body. Do you think that it's time for me to try to fix the hip before everything else gets worse?
Jane
07 Apr 2009, 15:19
My test all came up negative. Yet my Doctor says that I may have something called zero zero Rheumatoid Arthritis. Is this the same? I have pain and swelling and it is the same on both sides of my body.

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