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Is It Rheumatoid Arthritis or Gout?

Q: I am a 50-year-old man recently diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis (RA). But I have had joint symptoms for some time, beginning two years ago with a bout of excruciating pain and swelling in my left toe and progressing to episodes of pain and swelling in my feet, knees and wrists. While these incidents may have been early signs of rheumatoid arthritis, gout is also a concern of mine. Do you think I have arthritis or gout?

A: It sounds to me like you have gouty arthritis, or gout, an inflammatory disease that occurs when excess uric acid (a bodily waste product) circulating in the bloodstream is deposited as sodium urate crystals in certain joints. 

The excess uric acid may be caused by genetic factors or kidney disease. The condition may be aggravated by certain drugs such as diuretics and low doses of aspirin or by consuming too much alcohol or foods rich in purines, which are broken down into uric acid.

If your physician didn't know about your previous problems, it's not surprising he diagnosed your condition as rheumatoid arthritis; gout was probably not even on the radar. In its later stages gout can look a lot like RA, causing pain and inflammation in multiple joints. 

In some cases, untreated gout can be associated with a positive rheumatoid factor, an antibody often detected in the blood of people with rheumatoid arthritis. Even buildups of sodium urate can form lumps under the skin that resemble the nodules fairly common in RA.

But that's where the similarity ends. The causes and treatments are entirely different. Unlike gouty arthritis, RA occurs when the body’s immune system – which normally protects us from infection – mistakenly attacks the thin membrane that lines the joints. RA may begin acutely in many joints or start gradually in several joints causing damage and pain. Initially, the involved joints are the knuckles, middle joints of the fingers, wrists, and joints that attach the toes to the feet.

Gout, on the other hand, often starts as your problem did – with excruciating pain and swelling in the big toe – and often follows a trauma such as an illness or injury. Subsequent attacks may occur off and on in other joints – primarily those of the foot and knee – before becoming chronic. In its chronic stage, gout can affect many joints, including those of the hands. But this can take a few years to happen.

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Erika
13 Oct 2011, 01:13
Hi I am a 26 years old female I been having ankle pain everyday since feb of this year I been on motrin for 8 months and it don't help . Then a few weeks ago I woke up with my shoulder in pain . my ankle feels so swollen and it sometimes burn . I went to the doctors a month ago they gave me blood work so Im just waiting to see the doctor next week I hope something came out so I could be treated I cant go on with my pain anymore I have to small children that I need to be healthly for them . And I work as a housekeeping any advice for me on what it could be ?
Susan Hesse
18 May 2011, 09:14
I used to have severe cramping of my right foot. My husband suggested that I consume organe juice because it has potassium in it. Sure enough, if I drink O.J. at least a few times a week, I don't get foot cramps.
Francesca
17 May 2011, 21:56
I am 62, I am having the same problems as,
Sonja Herrera, in her comments from April 5th. I was diagnosed with RA, but It sounds like Fibromyalgia. My knees, hands, back, neck and legs have pain, more at night than any other time. I often get out of bed to get some relief from the pain, tingling and burning.There is also a lumpyness on the outer portion of my lower thigh. How can you get a proper diagnoses?
Francesca
17 May 2011, 21:34
I have the same Sonja Herrera, in the comments from April 5th. I was diagnosed with RA, but It sounds like Fibromialga. My knees, hands, back, neck and legs have pain, more at knight than any othr time. There is also a lumpyness on the outer portion of my knee. How can you get a proper diagnois
earl
17 May 2011, 19:01
where can you get "misai kucing " orthosiphon stamineus.
JAMES T
17 May 2011, 15:26
I have numbness in my left calf and foot and I get burning sensation on the inside of my left ankle. The big toe aches and this all happens the worse when sitting down too long or when I first lie down at night. I was diagnoised with gout when I was much younger. Docs now say it is artho and or neuorpaphy? Right now sitting at my computer my inside left foot and ankle are killing me???
Thank You
JIM TANNER
Sonja Herrera
05 Apr 2011, 19:21
I AM A 38YR OLD FEMALE THAT HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH FIBROMYALGIA,MY SYMPTOMS ARE SEVERE AND THIS PAST SUMMER TESTED A VERY HIGH URIC ACID LEVEL AFTER COMPLAINTS OF MY FEET HURTING VERY BAD,THIS WINTER HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT ON MY BODY AND I HAVE BEEN HAVING BOUTS OF EXTREME INFLAMMATION IN MY NECK LEGS FEET AND HANDS I HAVE LOST STRENGTH IN MY HANDS,I.E OPENING JARS ECT... IT HAS NOW SET IN IN MY LEFT THUMB JOINT AND LEFT A BUMP WHERE THE PAIN IS,DOES THIS SOUND LIKE GOUT OR R.A? I HAVE SO MUCH PAIN THAT I CANT FUNCTION THE WAY A WOMAN MY AGE SHOULD-ANY SUGGESTIONS ?????
Linda Tedder
10 Oct 2010, 21:42
I am almost 60 and having my second gout attack within 3 months. 2 weeks ago it started in my left big toe then settled in the arch. The Doc put me on Indomethesin and I've been on it one week. Pain is finally going away in left foot but for the last 3 days the right foot has progressively been getting more painful. Is this probably gout showing up there also or would being on the medication keep that from happening and foot just hurting from over compensating the non-use of left foot?

























































Erika
10 Sep 2010, 17:21
My pain started at night. My legs were just killing me. I realized it was my knees; it then went to my big toes, ankles, wrists, fingers and elbow within 2 weeks. The pain is indescribable. I lose a lot of sleep. During the day however, I'm not hurting that much but I do seem to get tired more often. As soon as I sit or lie down the pain comes on with a vengeance. I'm thinking it's gout even though many years ago I tested positive for the rheumetoid factor. (My doctor said a positive RF doesn't always mean RA.) Any suggestions on pain relief? I can only tolerate Tylenol.
tezza ratpa
04 Sep 2010, 04:42
I am teling you guys, get onto milk thistle tablets, along with a sensible diet you wil never have gout again.
Robert Pardo
14 Jun 2010, 13:18
Almost all the joinst from my feet,knees and waist are very painful and very hard for me to walk normally without feeling so much pain.I have to go to the doctor to end this pain.
Chris
22 Nov 2009, 22:07
My gout has been effectively controlled with Allopurinol. I visit my rhematologist every 6 months and she has me go to the lab prior to get a uric acid measure. My uric acid level has been much better with the allopurinol. I'm only 40 so I'm glad we were able to diagnose this now.
timo boll
27 Aug 2009, 21:33
i am also one gout patient before,i have try a lot of medicine to get rid of the gout attack,however non of them succeed.one of my friend encourage me to use "misai kucing " orthosiphon stamineus. These days the gout attack never come again no matter how much purine i take..




thanks,
Carolyn Gallagher
07 Aug 2009, 09:26
I have the same problem in my right foot(middle toe next to the big too and upper foot area etc.
Please respond as to what this condition is
and how it can be treated.
Linda Moors
30 Mar 2009, 20:27
I have a gnawing feeling in my right foot (middle toe next to the big toe and upper foot area) which seems to flare up when I lie down. It is not a sharp pain but like something gnawing at my foot which causes me to scrunch up my toes until they really do hurt. Rubbing with ointment for arthritis helps for a short time but it re-occurs. Soaking in hot water also helps. I am wondering what this condition might be.

Thank you
Linda Moors

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